Oil filter change interval with synthetic oil

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Not really. Amsoil says their filter is good down to 2 microns. Pretty good, but Filtroil says theirs filters to 1 micron. So, taken at face value, Amsoil says Filtroil's Koolaid tastes better. Couple that with the fact that Jim has a friggin alphabet of crap after his name saying he knows more about oil and filters than probably 99% of the people on earth, his research in choosing a bypass system to sell, and the trust he's earned of his customers, and the logical conclusion is readily evident, so stop being a prick and trying so hard to justify your purchase. Everyone has already said that bypass system is better than no bypass system. That should be justification enough for your shattered ego.
 

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Not really. Amsoil says their filter is good down to 2 microns. Pretty good, but Filtroil says theirs filters to 1 micron. So, taken at face value, Amsoil says Filtroil's Koolaid tastes better. Couple that with the fact that Jim has a friggin alphabet of crap after his name saying he knows more about oil and filters than probably 99% of the people on earth, his research in choosing a bypass system to sell, and the trust he's earned of his customers, and the logical conclusion is readily evident, so stop being a prick and trying so hard to justify your purchase. Everyone has already said that bypass system is better than no bypass system. That should be justification enough for your shattered ego.
Is Jim F***ING you in the rear?Why are your panties so ruffled...
 

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Why are you so desperately defending your choice of an inferior product?
 

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Why are you so desperately defending your choice of an inferior product?
Read my posts,I never said Filtroilly,was an inferior product.You're the guy who Knocked me when I got a bad batch of fuel from Walmart.....Do you fill up at the refinery??LOL
 
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I see what this is about now. You have a history of making poor choices, being a prick about it, blaming others, deflecting responsibility for your own actions, then resorting to personal insults like a third grader. This makes the second thread you've done it in, and I didn't even realize it was you who started the "I bought crappy fuel and paid the price for it" thread. Even though it has no bearing on this one, I'll say it again...I hope you nor anyone else has to replace expensive parts due to crappy fuel.

You slagged off a site sponsor and another member, both of which said your choice of system was better than nothing (one in fact said it was their second choice), trying to justify that your choice was superior and offered nothing of substance while demanding others prove their points with third party evidence. So, grow up and stop acting like a kid throwing a tantrum.
 

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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:Does he lube it up with LE,BEFORE HE BENDS YOU OVER!Once again youre incorrect,I never started the thread you mention.....
I see what this is about now. You have a history of making poor choices, being a prick about it, blaming others, deflecting responsibility for your own actions, then resorting to personal insults like a third grader. This makes the second thread you've done it in, and I didn't even realize it was you who started the "I bought crappy fuel and paid the price for it" thread. Even though it has no bearing on this one, I'll say it again...I hope you nor anyone else has to replace expensive parts due to crappy fuel.

You slagged off a site sponsor and another member, both of which said your choice of system was better than nothing (one in fact said it was their second choice), trying to justify that your choice was superior and offered nothing of substance while demanding others prove their points with third party evidence. So, grow up and stop acting like a kid throwing a tantrum.
 
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If you didn't chose to buy fuel at a location that was marginally less expensive & lower quality and have to buy a new pump, why so much sand in your vag!na over it? The rest is very correct...and stop parroting half of what CAT said about fuel. That discussion is over and both views have their valid points.

Just to see if your reading comprehension is worse than I imagine...if I already had the bypass kit you're so vehemently defending, I'd chalk it up to poor research, or quality research based on what was available at the time, and would enjoy my cleaner oil until I found some ill informed idiot to buy it for real close to what it cost me. Only then would I upgrade.
 
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If you didn't chose to buy fuel at a location that was marginally less expensive & lower quality and have to buy a new pump, why so much sand in your vag!na over it? The rest is very correct...and stop parroting half of what CAT said about fuel. That discussion is over and both views have their valid points.

Just to see if your reading comprehension is worse than I imagine...if I already had the bypass kit you're so vehemently defending, I'd chalk it up to poor research, or quality research based on what was available at the time, and would enjoy my cleaner oil until I found some ill informed idiot to buy it for real close to what it cost me. Only then would I upgrade.
When I read your posts,the first thing that come to mind is,"BIG HAT, NO CATTLE",can you understand that?You did make me laugh!
 

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When I read your posts,the first thing that come to mind is,"BIG HAT, NO CATTLE",can you understand that?You did make me laugh!


The fact is, most of the time you start this crap. No need to go on a name calling spree towards JRLott to make you feel better.


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Seems somebody needs a vacation for starting the same style of crap as the last time there was a time out. Seems to be a reoccurring theme......
 

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Seems somebody needs a vacation for starting the same style of crap as the last time there was a time out. Seems to be a reoccurring theme......

Exactly...he has already been banned twice before for being a douche...its seems he is either on here stirring crap or selling something in the classifieds. chit gets old after a while...
 

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Aye. Out of curiosity, I located the thread that I was razzing him so badly about his choices for fuel to see how I attacked him. Turns out that wasn't the case at all, but that he jumped all over several of us for making good choices before having issues. Most of the razzing was between CAT and me. Strangely, I don't think there's a grudge between CAT and me. Guess I'll have to PM him to see if I hate him...unless CAT wants to let us know here...LOL.
 

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LOL

I honestly hold zero grudges. Life is way to short and there are starving people walking the streets daily that have far worse problems than we could imagine.

Yes it gets passionate around here from time to time but it's all good on my end!

Let me put the dumb over and over crazy oil threads in perspective of reality. 90% of us will sell these trucks before "high mileage" is a concern.

99% of these trucks have never experience an oil related failure...!!!

90% of people don't use Oil Analysis. And if theyou did they wouldn't believe what they read.

You could literally run these trucks at 15k mile intervals with RotellaT 15w40 and would never experience a failure.

I see hundreds of oil analysis samples on multi million dollar engines monthly and must trust them because when your talking about changing 7500 gallons of oil in 10 engines cost becomes very crucial.

I've said what I've said above and live by it. These are toy throw away engines I perspective to multi million dollar engines. A long block for a 6.7L cost the same for me to even remotely repair one injector issue on a 8000hp+ engine. Keep I mind this is perspective only. Yet we will run oil for 15,000 hrs (2yr run time intervals). Even tho CAT recommends every 8760hrs.

Sampling is key. Filtration is also important.

Amsoil bypass kit simply WORKS. However. On a deIeted truck it's also proven to be overkill on a 6.7L.

Jim's kit is a filter kit just like amsoils kit.

Personally I'm probably the most unbiased purchaser of products around. I'll by from Mikey at Nolimit and gripe at him the next week!! LOL. But I like his products and if I think somethings dumb I'll say so and address the issue with him.



Here you go for stock trucks. Run the oil to 6500-7500 miles rinse and repeat. Done. Motorcraft. Rotella. Synthetic. Whatever you want bros.

I dropped my initial break in oil out of mine at 7500 miles. Yes you read that correctly!!! Anything harmed.... nope. Was it low on oil.... NOPE. was it dirty... YEP.

I guess I've seen so many engines torn apart in high HP diesel and NG applications that I developed a calis to saying "it's the oils fault" the problem 99.75% of the time was from a mechanical failure that wiped out the engine.

We are not driving Volkswagen TDI's. That gave super weak camshafts that need a special oil and additive package to keep them from flaking and wearing out!!!

Haha. (Flame suite on and behind a firewall somewhere in the US)
 
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Read my posts,I never said Filtroilly,was an inferior product.You're the guy who Knocked me when I got a bad batch of fuel from Walmart.....Do you fill up at the refinery??LOL

Im not taking any sides here at all. I see lots of humor in the debate.

But I did want to point out I have filled up at the refinery. LOL.

HOWEVER. A refinery blending unit in Oklahoma City just recalled some 450,000 gallons of fuel because the blending of ethanol got out of control and way to much was put into the blend!!! LOL.

Strait from the refinery. Lots of stores and big names and..... Walmart was on the list on the recall.
 

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Im not taking any sides here at all. I see lots of humor in the debate.



But I did want to point out I have filled up at the refinery. LOL.



HOWEVER. A refinery blending unit in Oklahoma City just recalled some 450,000 gallons of fuel because the blending of ethanol got out of control and way to much was put into the blend!!! LOL.



Strait from the refinery. Lots of stores and big names and..... Walmart was on the list on the recall.


So you think mobil 1 syn is safe to go to 10k on my truck that lost weight? And change the filter at 5k?


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So you think mobil 1 syn is safe to go to 10k on my truck that lost weight? And change the filter at 5k?


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Yes. Even if you hit oil temps in the 230 240 range.

It's literally a mental ordeal with millions of people. Rather be safe than sorry. And that I will not Knock. If a man wants to change at 5k intervals... change away! But it is good to know it's ok and the block agrees!

I truly do understand folks wanting to change early. A fella drops a golden brick for a very nice truck and the only thing in his control for comfort to keep his mind happy is to change the oil! Every man has that same disease!!

Heck I'm liable to drop mine in another 7500 just because. But I'll probably go 10-12k with sampling. And can seriously go further.

I want to point out as much as possible that long change intervals are strictly for DeIeted trucks. And even on DeIeted trucks oil sampling is wise.

The biggest concern will be finding a premature coolant issue or condensate (h2o). I have a little generator in my fleet that gets no load and runs weekly for 30 minutes. 165kw gen set that I regularly or should say annually get a bad oil sample on... and it's water... condensate. Not coolant. Caught by oil sampling. I can load bank it and run the PISS out of it and the water well steam out and the sample can come back good. But we generally just change the oil. 10 gallons. Done.
 
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Yes. Even if you hit oil temps in the 230 240 range.

It's literally a mental ordeal with millions of people. Rather be safe than sorry. And that I will not Knock. If a man wants to change at 5k intervals... change away! But it is good to know it's ok and the block agrees!

I truly do understand folks wanting to change early. A fella drops a golden brick for a very nice truck and the only thing in his control for comfort to keep his mind happy is to change the oil! Every man has that same disease!!

Heck I'm liable to drop mine in another 7500 just because. But I'll probably go 10-12k with sampling. And can seriously go further.

I want to point out as much as possible that long change intervals are strictly for DeIeted trucks. And even on DeIeted trucks oil sampling is wise.

The biggest concern will be finding a premature coolant issue or condensate (h2o). I have a little generator in my fleet that gets no load and runs weekly for 30 minutes. 165kw gen set that I regularly or should say annually get a bad oil sample on... and it's water... condensate. Not coolant. Caught by oil sampling. I can load bank it and run the PISS out of it and the water well steam out and the sample can come back good. But we generally just change the oil. 10 gallons. Done.


Sounds good, thanks


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Mechanics on this board have said several times that the worn engines usually come
from running synth oil. Not from the oil, it is fine. The problem is the contaminates. Just
because you run synth doesnt mean that there are not the same contaminates as
a good quality dyno oil.Folks like to run the synth too long and the engine wears from
the junk in the oil. Way better to run dino and change at 5k, than run synth longer
when the oil is a mess.

Key is to get it tested the way you drive, then you will know when it needs to be
changed and then take off 500-1000 miles and change it a little early. Oil is cheap
compared to any lubrication related problems.



Bingo, contamination is the real problem with extended drains. Most cj4 oils would last 15-20k with no contamination. That's the number one reason people love my oil, ring lands seal better, and keep more of that nonsense out. That's also why I push beta 1000 1 um bypass filtration.


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