Options for Compounds with a 38R

JDub · Jul 20, 2012

Charles said:
Are the compressors 88 and 66?

GQSSB is a 62mm inducer. Not sure on the atmosphere turbo

MadDiesel73 · Jul 20, 2012

I think a very nice affordable availible setup would new borg forged milled turbos.. A s362fmw/s482fmw would be sweet. Or the new s363 Not fmw cheaper them the 362fmw with the s482fmw.

Cat_rebel · Jul 20, 2012

What's a s362 going for?

Powerstroke Cowboy · Jul 20, 2012

This would be my choice for the low pressure turbo......

http://www.compturbo.com/products/ct6billet/ct6_106112

When (IF) I do compounds here is the one I will be going with... Just for space reasons...

http://www.compturbo.com/products/ct5billet/ct5_9194

MadDiesel73 · Jul 20, 2012

The fmw 362 is around $1100 the regular 363 is around $800 and the 482fmw i around $1500 a regular 480 is around $950

Cat_rebel · Jul 20, 2012

I must have missed something somewhere along the line. What does "FMW" stand for? Is it a different wheel design?

MadDiesel73 · Jul 20, 2012

Forged milled wheel / billet wheel

Groomzybanshee · Jul 20, 2012

Jacob@DP-Tuner said:
GQSSB is a 62mm inducer. Not sure on the atmosphere turbo

I thought the gqssb was 66 and the qssb 62??

JDub · Jul 20, 2012

Groomzybanshee said:
I thought the gqssb was 66 and the qssb 62??

They are both 62mm inducers, but there is about 200-cfm difference in the two.

Groomzybanshee · Jul 20, 2012

Jacob@DP-Tuner said:
They are both 62mm inducers, but there is about 200-cfm difference in the two.

Ohhh.. Gotcha

DocBar · Jul 20, 2012

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
This would be my choice for the low pressure turbo......

http://www.compturbo.com/products/ct6billet/ct6_106112

When (IF) I do compounds here is the one I will be going with... Just for space reasons...

http://www.compturbo.com/products/ct5billet/ct5_9194

Those look like nice turbos. Try to have them done by the time I get up there so we can compare the performance of a matched set of turbos to set glommed together by a hay bailer!!! :flipa:

oke:

I'm just messin with ya!!!

mattman347 · Jul 20, 2012

Here is the S467 next to the S482 FMW.

Blowby · Jul 20, 2012

Jacob@DP-Tuner said:
It'll be an updated version of what Blowby runs on his race truck. That compound setup is wicked, even on the street in his 500hp emissions tune. Put that same setup on customers truck in Cali that uses his truck solely for towing and that thing ripped with 250cc b-codes

He won't give you any

When I had Pius build these turbos I asked for very specific results.

Peak HP at 3200 rpm
Spool up nicely at 6000ft
Run 11.50 at sea level on fuel

After he finished he called and said that be put together some small towing turbos with my spec's. After a long pause.... is this what you really want on your race truck? I laughed and asked if it will do what we planned to achieve? His answer was a firm "Yes of course it will".

So, it spools nice at elevation and it runs 11.5 on fuel only close to sea level on A/T tires. What more could you ask for? He said it has more in it but I need to gate the HP charger to a calculated 30psi. I said no thanks but if I really want to push 122psi manifold pressure I know it's capable.

JDub · Jul 20, 2012

Blowby said:
When I had Pius build these turbos I asked for very specific results.

Peak HP at 3200 rpm

Spool up nicely at 6000ft

Run 11.50 at sea level on fuel

After he finished he called and said that be put together some small towing turbos with my spec's. After a long pause.... is this what you really want on your race truck? I laughed and asked if it will do what we planned to achieve? His answer was a firm "Yes of course it will".

So, it spools nice at elevation and it runs 11.5 on fuel only close to sea level on A/T tires. What more could you ask for? He said it has more in it but I need to gate the HP charger to a calculated 30psi. I said no thanks but if I really want to push 122psi manifold pressure I know it's capable.

It's the ultimate 7.3 turbo setup if you ask me...that truck is awesome under every circumstance of driving, competition, etc... It would be great for towing too

Hotrodtractor · Jul 20, 2012

Jacob@DP-Tuner said:
It's the ultimate 7.3 turbo setup if you ask me...that truck is awesome under every circumstance of driving, competition, etc... It would be great for towing too

It is very hard to argue with that statement. Pretty sure I said something very similar to Dennis just a few days ago. LOL

Powerstroke Cowboy · Jul 20, 2012

DocBar said:
Those look like nice turbos. Try to have them done by the time I get up there so we can compare the performance of a matched set of turbos to set glommed together by a hay bailer!!! :flipa: oke:

I'm just messin with ya!!!

LOL... I know you are!!!

It all cool!! BUT its hard to find the right turbo.. Most manufactors do not even have a flow map for there turbos... Having a flow map is allmost a must to get a perfect set....

DocBar · Jul 20, 2012

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
LOL... I know you are!!!

It all cool!! BUT its hard to find the right turbo.. Most manufactors do not even have a flow map for there turbos... Having a flow map is allmost a must to get a perfect set....

turbo maps look like rejects from the fingerprint dept. to me, so it wouldn't matter. Maybe you should give Bell a call, also.

Powerstroke Cowboy · Jul 20, 2012

DocBar said:
turbo maps look like rejects from the fingerprint dept. to me, so it wouldn't matter. Maybe you should give Bell a call, also.

I would learn (hear) to much to quick if I did that!!! Call bell that is...
My brain might short sercuit and fry on me!!! LOL

Big Bore · Jul 20, 2012

DocBar said:
He says he has a new design that should be ready by early August that is quicker spooling, etc. I didn't ask any specs and he didn't offer any. What he did offer was a whole helluva lot of insight with the questions I have.

I'm going to use whatever he sends. I'll also be sending in the GQSSB for a thorough going over.

Any idea on the cost of this atmo he is coming out with? In keeping with the original post, is it compatible with a gated 38r? Or I should ask how does the GQSSB compare to the 38r?

Mikes setup definitely is a benchmark and sets the standard.

DocBar · Jul 20, 2012

Big Bore said:
Any idea on the cost of this atmo he is coming out with? In keeping with the original post, is it compatible with a gated 38r? Or I should ask how does the GQSSB compare to the 38r?

Mikes setup definitely is a benchmark and sets the standard.

I honestly have no idea on any of the questions you asked!!!LOL :gethim:

I decided to go with the GQSSB because I got a good deal on the setup from Freddie and I really liked the idea of having more options if it didn't work out with the compound setup vs. having to do it later if I didn't like the 38R setup.

I had been bouncing questions off of Jason and some others when I realized that there was an astronomically higher chance that my truck would rust to pieces before I ever learned how to properly size and match turbos. So I decided to listen to all these guys and just try to copy and paste a known, proven setup. That led directly to Mike and Pius.

Pius asked me quite a few questions, told me he will have exactly what I want in a few weeks and that is that.

I really wanted to do this on my own, but I just don't have the experience yet. I'll learn it eventually, but why experiment on my DD?

It's also pretty cool that I'll have a close copy of probably the best setup out there, but it'll still be a little bit different due to some upgrades over the years.