mclean
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pretty much what I was trying to say but you did a better job of it haha.
Pro's and con's between the Black Max, spartan, and SCT touch?
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pretty much what I was trying to say but you did a better job of it haha.
Jeff@Spartan
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Let me know if you have any questions about the Spartan. We have an update coming soon that I think you would really enjoy.
Yeah visual is big for me. If I go SCT it will be a touch. I liked what the live wire had to offer, but I didn't like the ugly blue lite display. Lol I'm looking for functionality and a nice looking display. Data logging is also something I would like to have. A bigger display would be nice, I'd probably take bigger over better contrast and resolution.
Corb@CorbinShipping
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Well, on the 250, I ran the Spartan first, just the 250 tune. I loved it, but it was my first diesel tuner. No shift on the fly was sorta weird, as compared to my buddy's cummins with bully dog... But, after driving mine, and then being in his, I was very pleased NOT to have shift on the fly, and beat his pants off of him..... When we did my first build, I wanted to do custom tunes on the Spartan, but it locked up, and would not let go of my truck.... would not load up the stock tune. Just a pain in the azz..... So, once we finally got it off, I was irritated with it, and sold it. The current owner loves it, and still jams the 275 as a DD. He is on here as well. I went with the mini maxx. Just the 300 HD tune. I tried KEM on it, and made less power, but was much cleaner than the 300HD. It was nice to have the shift on the fly, but it was sooooooo smoky, that I decided to try SCT with Erik's tunes. LOVED IT!!!!! But again, no shift on the fly. I kept the mini maxx for gauges, and future tuning options. SCT sucks balls for gauges......
on the 450, I used the SCT with Erik's tunes at first,(off of my 250 while she was under the knife again) and ran the mini maxx for gauges, then just the minimaxx (after I had to put the SCT back on the 250) It was ok, and smoke was much more under control with the addition of LOW BOOST FUELING adjust ability. I found a good deal on a Spartan, and gave her another shot. The Dash Daq, is a bad azz monitor. Hands down, the best that I have used. I am sold on the Spartan for the 450, and might try it again on the 250 at some point.... and I have already sold my mini maxx.
for me, the setups that i have found that worked best, on the 250 is SCT with Edge CTS for gauges. and on the 450, Spartan for all purposes.
Not gonna bash anyone's tuning, or toss out HP #s, just what works best for me. If H&S gets other people to do custom tuning, I think it would be a viable option, but I will continue to live without shift on the fly.... SCT has awesome trans control options. Spartan has pretty damn good trans tuning, and I really did not like the H&S trans tuning.
Basically, shift on the fly is the major difference. Everything else is user preference.
on the 450, I used the SCT with Erik's tunes at first,(off of my 250 while she was under the knife again) and ran the mini maxx for gauges, then just the minimaxx (after I had to put the SCT back on the 250) It was ok, and smoke was much more under control with the addition of LOW BOOST FUELING adjust ability. I found a good deal on a Spartan, and gave her another shot. The Dash Daq, is a bad azz monitor. Hands down, the best that I have used. I am sold on the Spartan for the 450, and might try it again on the 250 at some point.... and I have already sold my mini maxx.
for me, the setups that i have found that worked best, on the 250 is SCT with Edge CTS for gauges. and on the 450, Spartan for all purposes.
Not gonna bash anyone's tuning, or toss out HP #s, just what works best for me. If H&S gets other people to do custom tuning, I think it would be a viable option, but I will continue to live without shift on the fly.... SCT has awesome trans control options. Spartan has pretty damn good trans tuning, and I really did not like the H&S trans tuning.
Basically, shift on the fly is the major difference. Everything else is user preference.
Corb@CorbinShipping
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Hurry up already!!!! LOL DD is doing great. I daily drive the 450 in 275, late lock, in Washington DC right now, and have NO ISSUES! Loving it!
SEABEE08FX4
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SCT has dropped the TSX touch screen anyway, to many issues.
Jeff@Spartan
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You can email [email protected] and get a list of dealers in your general area. I know we have quite a few dealers in Texas (Performance Truck Products being one).
SEABEE08FX4
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We have to abide by MAP policy on the price as do all other shops that carry them so price should be the same no matter where you look. But we can get you one no problem when ever your ready.
Oh I dont know why, but I was thinking the Spartan was retail for 529. I think I may have gotten prices mixed up on the 8900 and the Spartan.
SEABEE08FX4
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Yeah the Spartan is over double that price point, and the 8900 is almost double that too. The closest thing you'll find for that will be a H&S XRT Pro, they sell for 664.05 and you can get up to a 300 HP tune and used the MCC software for the 6.4 once its released.
i think only the mini maxx and black maxx are gonna get mcc for now.
SEABEE08FX4
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Well really none are out yet for the 6.4 ( only the 6.7 Dodge is out now ) But I do believe the MCC will be available for the XRT as well in the future.
Thanks BellyBoat.
Yeah I have heard it would only be released for the Mini and Black as well. Guess we will find out shortly. Heard MCC is in the beta test stage now. If every thing goes right should be released in a few weeks. Hopefully. I am going to pick up the Mini Maxx on Friday. Now I just need to find some thing that will give me data logging.
I have analog Glow Schit gauges. Should I put those in or just monitor the H&S?
Yeah I have heard it would only be released for the Mini and Black as well. Guess we will find out shortly. Heard MCC is in the beta test stage now. If every thing goes right should be released in a few weeks. Hopefully. I am going to pick up the Mini Maxx on Friday. Now I just need to find some thing that will give me data logging.
I have analog Glow Schit gauges. Should I put those in or just monitor the H&S?
