T500 vs stock pump test

diehardstroker · Mar 6, 2014

no, i gave him a list of my mods and he asked about any future mods and i told him maybe a billet wheel or 38r, no injector talk. but it looks like the problem was with how i had the monitor reading the data from the sensor.

Tom S · Mar 7, 2014

diehardstroker said:
alright, I looked at the log file and Lincolnlocker nailed it, I saw pressure spike up to 3400 psi on this WOT run and then she bounced between 3000-3100 psi. I think before what i saw displayed was the max value the app recorded. this makes more since, cause the tune is asking for around 3200 psi. seems like I found my answer lol

Creating a graph for the numbers makes a lot of difference in seeing what is going on.

lc tpi · Mar 8, 2014

i have a scan guage on my 95 7.3 . while out running some arrons i was watching the icp psi , i have 238/100's t500 and gearhead tunes with a 2000 sd computer, i watched my icp get to 3120 psi at full throttle but from 30 mph to 75 mph getting on the freeway. so its safe to say the tunes dont limmit my icp , right? my t500 was my stock pump with 245k on it before the build.

bruce · Mar 8, 2014

Depends on how much PW its call in for

lc tpi · Mar 8, 2014

ok so maybe i missunderstood some of the talk in the earlier posts. i thought it said some tuners set max icp to 2400psi.

lincolnlocker · Mar 9, 2014

lc tpi said:
ok so maybe i missunderstood some of the talk in the earlier posts. i thought it said some tuners set max icp to 2400psi.

Not usually. I read it once in here and thats the first I have ever heard of it!

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vanderchevy18 · Mar 13, 2014

So what the general consensus here is that the money you pay for a T500 gets you a rebuilt stock pump. I wish Joey would jump on here and give his input. Surely there is something else he does for it to be an "upgrade" pump.

lincolnlocker · Mar 13, 2014

vanderchevy18 said:
So what the general consensus here is that the money you pay for a T500 gets you a rebuilt stock pump. I wish Joey would jump on here and give his input. Surely there is something else he does for it to be an "upgrade" pump.

My thoughts exactly. This has been hashed out over the years and i dont really know if joey ever stated exactly what he does but it always comes back to this.. a couple guys I know have said that they would run a t500 over a adrenaline any day.. so I dont exactly know whats been done to either of them.

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vanderchevy18 · Mar 13, 2014

I know the Adrenaline is opened up and has a steeper swash plate. It actually does flow more. The T500 I can't actually see any proof of it being anything more than a healthy stock pump. That's why I want Joey to chime in so he can put any false claims to rest.

lincolnlocker · Mar 13, 2014

vanderchevy18 said:
I know the Adrenaline is opened up and has a steeper swash plate. It actually does flow more. The T500 I can't actually see any proof of it being anything more than a healthy stock pump. That's why I want Joey to chime in so he can put any false claims to rest.

Yes. That would be nice if he did.

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strokin'_tatsch · Mar 13, 2014

I just briefly talked to Joey yesterday.... The T500 is more than a stock 17* pump, but what EXACTLY is done I cannot say. Data that I have recorded has shown it to out perform a modded 17* pump as well. I have not seen the internals first hand, nor do I care to see them. All I can base this response from is from what Joey said yesterday and what I have seen in data like a year ago..

Tom S · Mar 13, 2014

strokin'_tatsch said:
I just briefly talked to Joey yesterday.... The T500 is more than a stock 17* pump, but what EXACTLY is done I cannot say. Data that I have recorded has shown it to out perform a modded 17* pump as well. I have not seen the internals first hand, nor do I care to see them. All I can base this response from is from what Joey said yesterday and what I have seen in data like a year ago..

Well can you answer this question then. Does it use the same swash plate angle?

m j · Mar 14, 2014

Thank you,
Joey@TE

FYI: mj, the T500 has never had a stock 17 degree swashplate. Obviously, by not changing swashplate angle and piston diameter, flow volume will not increase.

thats as close as I got to what it is.
to me a piston pump is not 'rebuilt' if the worn pistons are still in it.
most people do not look at anything but the price, for them the T500 is perfect.

OBS-Addiction97 · Mar 14, 2014

Hpop secrets make me laugh.....

strokin'_tatsch · Mar 14, 2014

Tom S said:
Well can you answer this question then. Does it use the same swash plate angle?

No it does not use a 17* swash plate, as indicated in an earlier response.

I'll be testing another T500 soon on my own truck with 160/100s and it will get compared to a stock 17* pump.

vanderchevy18 · Mar 14, 2014

If you want, hook up with me and I'll give you a set of data points that I would like recorded. Midwest Performance Diesel will also donate the temporary use of a new Adrenaline for testing as well.

lincolnlocker · Mar 14, 2014

vanderchevy18 said:
If you want, hook up with me and I'll give you a set of data points that I would like recorded. Midwest Performance Diesel will also donate the temporary use of a new Adrenaline for testing as well.

Hell, I just need a t500 and I could test it against the Adrenaline thats on my dually now and the jr badger thats sitting on my freezer in my garage. Hmmmm might just have to find a t500 for some testing this summer.

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strokin'_tatsch · Mar 14, 2014

vanderchevy18 said:
If you want, hook up with me and I'll give you a set of data points that I would like recorded. Midwest Performance Diesel will also donate the temporary use of a new Adrenaline for testing as well.

Shoot me a PM with what you want logged. If AE will log it, I don't mind looking at it. I have plenty of time before I'm going to swap HPOPs. I'm running through my mods pretty quick on the new truck, but I still have a few of the pricey parts to buy. The HPOP will be the last mod to be done basically. Next up on the list is fuel system, then T4 mount/turbo, and I'll probably install injectors at the same time as the turbo. That's all that I need before I can do the HPOP. I still haven't gotten ahold of a good 17* pump to send Joey either. May go ahead and use a new pump to start with.

OBS-Addiction97 · Mar 14, 2014

lincolnlocker said:
Hell, I just need a t500 and I could test it against the Adrenaline thats on my dually now and the jr badger thats sitting on my freezer in my garage. Hmmmm might just have to find a t500 for some testing this summer.

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What about a Srp to ?