The story behind Crower's 6.7 Rods

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So flame suit on but shouldnt the manufacturer of any part check for issues, and make sure they work with proper clearance. Moving the oil sprayers could cause piston cooling problems, and I don't think anyone would want to remove material from the rod because it was made that way for a reason. I understand a notch in the block clear for stroker cranks and things like that but still. I agree it should have been caught by the builder, but it should have never left the manufacturer.
 

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Yea flat rate has it's ups and downs
It's all about how much and how fast you are
Enhanced short block pays like 28 vs rod and piston wich would sit you around 35 ish
I don't have Service Labor Times in front of me but this is off the top of the dome.

Some dealers have never done a bedate gskt job
Others have done a handful

It's all about how you can not loose your azs
 
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Yea flat rate has it's ups and downs
It's all about how much and how fast you are
Enhanced short block pays like 28 vs rod and piston wich would sit you around 35 ish
I don't have Service Labor Times in front of me but this is off the top of the dome.

Some dealers have never done a bedate gskt job
Others have done a handful

It's all about how you can not loose your azs

I could always make the time unless something crazy happened. But I could swap the block get that truck off my lift and get something else in to make more hours quicker.
 

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I didn't read the whole thread but I find it insane to think that its crowers fault in some way?? I am really not sure how this was overlooked during assembly.
 

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I didn't read the whole thread but I find it insane to think that its crowers fault in some way?? I am really not sure how this was overlooked during assembly.

oh pipe down benjamin. this aint a japanese engine. LOL

who built this motor ?
 

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How could Crower NOT be at fault in at least some manner if they were sent a block and built rods using that block? they should've encountered these issues when doing R&D right..?
 

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How could Crower NOT be at fault in at least some manner if they were sent a block and built rods using that block? they should've encountered these issues when doing R&D right..?

They most likely werent sent a block. Probably just a rod to build off of. Who ever had crower build that rod originally should have verified fit when they got it back. Still comes down to the assembler being responsible.
 

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True. I was just going off of what allegedly happened, which was Alligator sending them a block. They deny ever having a block.. sooo :shrug:
 

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I am on the fence about this... Yes a builder should always check clearances on the rotating assembly and this should have been caught before it was ever fully assembled. But it's obvious that Carrillo rods have clearance in that part of the rod how did that happen? A builder caught it and machined it or Carrillo actually test fitted a rod and saw what they needed to build? Geez file to fit rings and machine to fit rods! Lol hell give me a chunk of iron and ill make my own block too! :wtf:
 

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We have a new short block and going to put a set of Carrillo rods in this one. This is why there has been a hold up on the build. I knew last week that I was going to be needing a new short block and I asked Spe to not post anything about it at that time. The truck had literally less than 3000 miles on a brand new block, these trucks are quiet we all know this, and I can tell you it didn't make any noise that wasn't normal and drive fine when I got it back. One whole side of motor is destroyed.
 

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Im sure by the time you got it he thing had clearanced itself so you would never know
 

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I am on the fence about this... Yes a builder should always check clearances on the rotating assembly and this should have been caught before it was ever fully assembled. But it's obvious that Carrillo rods have clearance in that part of the rod how did that happen? A builder caught it and machined it or Carrillo actually test fitted a rod and saw what they needed to build? Geez file to fit rings and machine to fit rods! Lol hell give me a chunk of iron and ill make my own block too! :wtf:

Carillo may have gotten lucky it cleared just due to the H beam vs I beam comparison.
 

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We spoke to another Crower customer regarding the similar issues & here's what he had to say:

"I have had some of the same issues SPE has had recently. Our 2011 truck blew a motor shortly after installing an Industrial injection add a turbo kit and some 100 horse injectors. After wards we send a brand new crate motor down too Crower to have them design a set of rods for the 6.7 and ultimately our motor. That motor was at Crower for almost 8 months IIRC and they shipped it back to us assembled as a long block ready to go, it was looked over ( nothing measured ect just a quick glance as they said it was ready for heads and install ) and then finished final assembly and install in the truck. Truck ran great for about 1500 miles then started knocking, towed it back to the shop and tore it apart to find, you guessed it, a messed up piston, impact on all the rods from the squirters and one missing. Ended up sending the motor to Crower after months of arguing and them trying to give us the run around and them finally settling to pay us our time and them fix the issues with the rods. We received the long block a few months later and inspected it much closer this go round, we found pistons in backwards, rods look like they were clearance with an angle grinder and the kicker is the rods were still hitting the brand new squirtters we sent down with the block and they were still hitting. To add insult to injury they rebalanced the crank but messed it up so bad the only way we could use other rods like the Carillos SPE uses would be to replace the crank ( $1,000+ ). We have now taken the rods to a local shop and had them clearanced the rest of the way, ordered a new set of squirtters for the third time and are assembling everything in house."

The Fact that Crower is flat out saying they have no knowledge of impact on the squirtters is a straight up lie...
 

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We spoke to another Crower customer regarding the similar issues & here's what he had to say:

"I have had some of the same issues SPE has had recently. Our 2011 truck blew a motor shortly after installing an Industrial injection add a turbo kit and some 100 horse injectors. After wards we send a brand new crate motor down too Crower to have them design a set of rods for the 6.7 and ultimately our motor. That motor was at Crower for almost 8 months IIRC and they shipped it back to us assembled as a long block ready to go, it was looked over ( nothing measured ect just a quick glance as they said it was ready for heads and install ) and then finished final assembly and install in the truck. Truck ran great for about 1500 miles then started knocking, towed it back to the shop and tore it apart to find, you guessed it, a messed up piston, impact on all the rods from the squirters and one missing. Ended up sending the motor to Crower after months of arguing and them trying to give us the run around and them finally settling to pay us our time and them fix the issues with the rods. We received the long block a few months later and inspected it much closer this go round, we found pistons in backwards, rods look like they were clearance with an angle grinder and the kicker is the rods were still hitting the brand new squirtters we sent down with the block and they were still hitting. To add insult to injury they rebalanced the crank but messed it up so bad the only way we could use other rods like the Carillos SPE uses would be to replace the crank ( $1,000+ ). We have now taken the rods to a local shop and had them clearanced the rest of the way, ordered a new set of squirtters for the third time and are assembling everything in house."

The Fact that Crower is flat out saying they have no knowledge of impact on the squirtters is a straight up lie...

Who did you hear this from?


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