The story behind Crower's 6.7 Rods

[ChattyCathy]

A credibile source who asked to remain anonymous at this time

Jesus knows.

 

[Powerstroked162]

A credibile source who asked to remain anonymous at this time

LOL let me be more specific, who at Alligator told you that?


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[SPE]

LOL let me be more specific, who at Alligator told you that?


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Does it really matter?

 

[Powerstroked162]

Does it really matter?

Without a doubt.


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[Fast-6.0]

The engine builder is ultimately responsible for checking the build period.

Totally agree. So there is a fitment issue that Crower could revise, this engine failure falls 100% on the builder.

We prefer Carrillo, but as stated before, they hit the block on a 6.0/6.4. I could assemble the engine, let it hit, and then call Carrillo and bitch. :lame:

This is the engine builders fault!

 

[Fast-6.0]

We as well as the customer have called Crower & they claim it is the engine builder's responsibility to clearance the rods. While we did not build this engine originally we believe Crower is at fault as it is difficult for the engine builder to check clearance between the rod & squirter because of it's location. This should have been when the rods were designed. It is not a common clearance to check for an engine builder. It is not common practice for SPE to call a company out, but since they won't own up to it, we want to make it know the issues their rods have cause resulting in needing a long block because of the damages.

*Mainly we want to make customers aware that these rods need clearanced since they are not advertised that way nor are they telling customers until after they have an issue.

Since when is it not required to check all clearances with an aftermarket connecting rod in any engine. That's a copout on your part and SPE just dropped a notch by starting the thread this way.

 

[SPE]

Since when is it not required to check all clearances with an aftermarket connecting rod in any engine. That's a copout on your part and SPE just dropped a notch by starting the thread this way.

SPE never did the install & since Crower refuses to inform customers & is still selling these rods customers need to be made aware. We also wanted to explain what Matt's thread was all about.

 

[Beans71086]

Since when is it not required to check all clearances with an aftermarket connecting rod in any engine. That's a copout on your part and SPE just dropped a notch by starting the thread this way.

Agreed, the thread should have been started to warn other ppl about the issue, instead of a bash-fest against Crower.

 

[Powerstroked162]

SPE never did the install & since Crower refuses to inform customers & is still selling these rods customers need to be made aware. We also wanted to explain what Matt's thread was all about.

This isn't anything new though with custom aftermarket parts. It's a bad deal, and it sucks for Matt for sure but the dealership that put the rods in is at fault. How come other users who have these rods aren't experiencing the same issues? How some you only have 2 oil squirters messed up and not 4, or 8?? Crower has a pretty solid reputation in the industry, same rep in the gasser world. I don't trying to place the blame for a engine builders mistake, on them is really gonna make a difference. I ran crowers in my 7.3, never had a problem. More pro's than con's when it comes to reviews, is my pount


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[Codydiesel]

Stock rods ftw

 

[SPE]

This isn't anything new though with custom aftermarket parts. It's a bad deal, and it sucks for Matt for sure but the dealership that put the rods in is at fault. How come other users who have these rods aren't experiencing the same issues? How some you only have 2 oil squirters messed up and not 4, or 8?? Crower has a pretty solid reputation in the industry, same rep in the gasser world. I don't trying to place the blame for a engine builders mistake, on them is really gonna make a difference. I ran crowers in my 7.3, never had a problem. More pro's than con's when it comes to reviews, is my pount


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There were 6 squirters. We only photographed 2. It's really frustrating on our end when we call Crower to inform them of this & they refuse to let us talk to anyone in tech to see if they were even aware. Finally after 2 days of calling & complaining we finally speak to someone that said they weren't aware, sorry about your luck, & send them back & we will see if we can clearance them. Later find out that yes, they were aware. It's incredibly frustrating. Especially if you'd see the damages to the customers engine.

 

[Powerstroked162]

Again, you are getting info about what Crower knew from a unreliable source, and that's a fact.

Was their one full bank of squirters damaged or was it random throughout the block?

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[Dieselcraft]

So now the engine is junk. Well bottom End

What's done is done this thread is just making SPE look bad



Just my 2cents

My ? Is did engine builder man up and pay for the damages???

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They say aftermaket connecting rod s and run out of sight?

 

[01PSD]

I highly doubt Ford will payout a dime

 

[Built 6.7]

Wordering if i should send them back to crower just to see what they really do to fix the issue?

 

[01PSD]

First you should call Ford and tell the engine builder he's a moron. LOL

 

[Dieselcraft]

First you should call Ford and tell the engine builder he's a moron. LOL

Should have the engine sent to ford and have the sm explain to you what happened then kick the techs ass.

If the dealer got the truck and found root cause to be the rods
Well it would be on fords fence but since it's been touched by others ford will give you a cold shoulder

Park a huge sing by the dealer and boycott them you will get the general managers attintion.

Iv seen this done by a d max guy about how much he got over charged for a water pump. Trust me it worked LOL

 

[01PSD]

Should have the engine sent to ford and have the sm explain to you what happened then kick the techs ass.

If the dealer got the truck and found root cause to be the rods
Well it would be on fords fence but since it's been touched by others ford will give you a cold shoulder

Park a huge sing by the dealer and boycott them you will get the general managers attintion.

Iv seen this done by a d max guy about how much he got over charged for a water pump. Trust me it worked LOL

Exactly. They'll tell you to pound sand and do everything in their power to deny it being their fault.

Funny you should mention something like that Dmax incident..
Guy here was told by a SALES REP that putting a tuner on his 6.7 for better MPG wouldn't void his warranty. He wasn't too happy when he found out his warranty claim (not sure what it was) was denied LOL! He stuck a giant sign calling the dealership a bunch of liars in the back of his truck and paraded around near the place for weeks.. LOL

 

[BWCbuilt]

It sucks for everybody.
Crower should have put more time into the engineering, and should be more receptive to SPE's attempts to make contact about the issues.
The engine builder should have checked the clearances before sending the motor out.
When the motor grenaded, it should have went back to the original builder.
SPE is trying to do the right thing for the customer (fix the truck the right way, get somebody else to to foot the bill, and prevent others from having the problem) but are coming off as being whiney.

Bottom line, the original builder is responsible for the failure and should be cutting the check for the repairs.
Crower should be very interested in the feedback at a minimum.

If the builder had found a clearance issue with the rods that could not be accounted for easily.... then Crower would be the one who should make things right.... before the motor was even installed.

 

[alwil]

IMO in the very least crower should foot the bill for a set of new rods......that actually fit.