Sagging bad with gooseneck

KingRanch6.0L · Jan 9, 2013

Ya my dad was pissed that the 05 i bought from him worked better than his new one

Cratos · Jan 10, 2013

I think the short beds have weeker springs anyway. do you have the camper and tow packages on it?

WHY NOT · Jan 10, 2013

KingRanch6.0L said:
Ya my dad was pissed that the 05 i bought from him worked better than his new one

I bet the 6.7 pulled and handled the load way better even squatting like that. Like I said toss some airbags under it and problem solved these trucks pull great

java · Jan 10, 2013

Id rather tow with a 6.7 than my 6.0 any day, put some air bags and be done with it.

Dzchey21 · Jan 10, 2013

Cratos said:
I think the short beds have weeker springs anyway. do you have the camper and tow packages on it?

What makes you think that

KingRanch6.0L · Jan 10, 2013

WHY NOT said:
I bet the 6.7 pulled and handled the load way better even squatting like that. Like I said toss some airbags under it and problem solved these trucks pull great

It was like riding a bucking bronco thru San Antonio.

It did pick up speed a little quicker but thats about it.

KingRanch6.0L · Jan 10, 2013

java said:
Id rather tow with a 6.7 than my 6.0 any day, put some air bags and be done with it.

That looks good.

WHY NOT · Jan 10, 2013

KingRanch6.0L said:
It was like riding a bucking bronco thru San Antonio.

It did pick up speed a little quicker but thats about it.

Probably because it was on the bump stops. I just made a 750 mile trip towing 15,000 lbs and I just left the cruise set on 70 for most of the trip. Never got hot and hardly every down shifted pulling up hills.

Dave · Jan 11, 2013

Cratos said:
I think the short beds have weeker springs anyway. do you have the camper and tow packages on it?

Nope. Same spring rates as the longbeds

TXGLASSMAN · Jan 11, 2013

Dave said:
Nope. Same spring rates as the longbeds

every short bed truck includding short bed f350s ive seen in texas do not have over loads in them. thats probably part of the issue

Dzchey21 · Jan 11, 2013

Mine has overloads...

Dave · Jan 11, 2013

TXGLASSMAN said:
every short bed truck includding short bed f350s ive seen in texas do not have over loads in them. thats probably part of the issue

Thats because they order them with the lighter GVWR package

jdc753 · Jan 11, 2013

I would be curious what the door sticker says too, I didn't think you could get a super duty as light as 9,900, I figured they were all over 10k and this option was to reduce them to 10k but I guess I was wrong.

I know my 05 F350 long bed is 11,500 on the door and has overloads and I think the 6.0 short beds are 11,400?

Sagging that bad I would honestly wonder if the truck had some broken leafs, thats the only time I have seen one sag that badly.

Dave · Jan 11, 2013

jdc753 said:
I would be curious what the door sticker says too, I didn't think you could get a super duty as light as 9,900, I figured they were all over 10k and this option was to reduce them to 10k but I guess I was wrong.

I know my 05 F350 long bed is 11,500 on the door and has overloads and I think the 6.0 short beds are 11,400?

Sagging that bad I would honestly wonder if the truck had some broken leafs, thats the only time I have seen one sag that badly.

6.0 shortbeds are either 8800 or 9900 in the 250s and 350 SRWs

Dzchey21 · Jan 11, 2013

This is on my new truck

WHY NOT · Jan 11, 2013

My truck as the 10,000lb package it is just a sticker for licensing in different states, no different than a truck with 11,500 except the sticker. Mine has overloads on it.

jdc753 · Jan 13, 2013

WHY NOT said:
My truck as the 10,000lb package it is just a sticker for licensing in different states, no different than a truck with 11,500 except the sticker. Mine has overloads on it.

That is what I always assumed was the case, makes sense too.

Here in MA, if the truck is over 10k GVWR, or has 5 or more wheels, then it is required to register commercial. Some get around this, but as I understand it is how the books are written.

So instead of $25 a year for a passenger registration, and a $29 annual inspection fee, you have to register by weight, which for my 11,500 truck is $220 for the year, and usually $70-120 ($29+ 1 hour shop time) for a DOT level inspection. So in MA, getting that 10k package can be pretty useful.

SAK · Jan 14, 2013

Mine has the 10k GVWR and does not have overloads. I think they only come with over loads if you have the Camper Package. Mine came with 20's stock FWIW

TXGLASSMAN · Jan 14, 2013

SAK said:
Mine has the 10k GVWR and does not have overloads. I think they only come with over loads if you have the Camper Package. Mine came with 20's stock FWIW

well i have the 11,5 package and mine does have the camper package as well so i do have over loads