5r110 to 4r100 swap

stroker57 · Dec 13, 2013

Groomzybanshee said:
4500 is price for a e4od-4r in the 7.3s. For a v10 4r it's 7500+\-

No way I had alittle less then 6500 in mine all said and done that's with shipping

co04cobra · Dec 13, 2013

Groomzybanshee said:
4500 is price for a e4od-4r in the 7.3s. For a v10 4r it's 7500+\-

Why would it be that much more for a mod motor 4r? I have sold a few cores to guys that had Brian build them. They are very similar overall.

OP, I have a stage 4 EDE trans in my 08. It is an awesome trans and right now shifts perfect.

However, don't believe anybody that says you won't break blah blah blah....trans.

With that said, BTS would get my vote for a trans because he will be there for you, when the need arises.

MorganY · Dec 13, 2013

co04cobra said:
Why would it be that much more for a mod motor 4r? I have sold a few cores to guys that had Brian build them. They are very similar overall.

OP, I have a stage 4 EDE trans in my 08. It is an awesome trans and right now shifts perfect.

However, don't believe anybody that says you won't break blah blah blah....trans.

With that said, BTS would get my vote for a trans because he will be there for you, when the need arises.

Trans consists of wearable parts. It will eventually break. You know what I'm referring to.

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co04cobra · Dec 13, 2013

MorganY said:
Trans consists of wearable parts. It will eventually break. You know what I'm referring to.

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Right. It wasn't directed at you, and I wasn't even meaning it in a bad way.

A lot of people will say you can't break a BTS too. I know that is not the case, but Brian is there when it happens.

I have seen things that "should" not break that are broken right out of the box. Its not always because of wear.

MorganY · Dec 13, 2013

co04cobra said:
Right. It wasn't directed at you, and I wasn't even meaning it in a bad way.

A lot of people will say you can't break a BTS too. I know that is not the case, but Brian is there when it happens.

I have seen things that "should" not break that are broken right out of the box. Its not always because of wear.

Thought it was a blow at me, sorry.

I agree with every bit of your last 3 sentences in that post. 110%

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stonepusher · Dec 13, 2013

I love my 4r100!! I would never put a 5r back in, the people that bash it are the people that have never driven a 6.0 with a 4r, plus they probably have over 15 grand in 5r's through out the years and can't turn on it now. The 4r drives awesome in street/Race trucks and in the everyday driver trucks(tune, intake, and exhaust). Just my 2 cents. take it or leave it, that is all. FWIW my truck puts down on the track every bit of power it makes on a dyno, plus more, can't get that kind of consistency out of a 5r IMO.

MorganY · Dec 13, 2013

stonepusher said:
I love my 4r100!! I would never put a 5r back in, the people that bash it are the people that have never driven a 6.0 with a 4r, plus they probably have over 15 grand in 5r's through out the years and can't turn on it now. The 4r drives awesome in street/Race trucks and in the everyday driver trucks(tune, intake, and exhaust). Just my 2 cents. take it or leave it, that is all. FWIW my truck puts down on the track every bit of power it makes on a dyno, plus more, can't get that kind of consistency out of a 5r IMO.

Thats because you havent had a 5r that can handle big power in the first place. I thought the same 4r business until I played with one that could.

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stonepusher · Dec 13, 2013

I have driven a BTS 5r and the 4r still was WAY better, The same 5r has been out of the truck a more than a few times at the 600hp level. Like stated, just my 2 cents.

MorganY · Dec 13, 2013

OP just get a Lenco and be done it LOL

And by the way. Rudy's truck never made a complete pass with the 4r.

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Mike@MPD · Dec 13, 2013

Because it wasn't tuned right

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Mike@MPD · Dec 13, 2013

Tell me why a 7700 lb truck making the same power held up

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Groomzybanshee · Dec 14, 2013

stroker57 said:
No way I had alittle less then 6500 in mine all said and done that's with shipping

Price has went up. Quit trying to argue call Monday and ask.

stroker57 · Dec 14, 2013

Groomzybanshee said:
Price has went up. Quit trying to argue call Monday and ask.

Price as went up 3 grand in 2 years?

Groomzybanshee · Dec 14, 2013

stroker57 said:
Price as went up 3 grand in 2 years?

It is what it is. So stop responding call Monday and you will see..

stroker57 · Dec 14, 2013

Groomzybanshee said:
It is what it is. So stop responding call Monday and you will see..

Alright chill out no need to be a d#*k about it. I'm just shocked that the price would have gone up so much. Do know what the reasoning behide the price jump was?

Groomzybanshee · Dec 14, 2013

stroker57 said:
Alright chill out no need to be a d#*k about it. I'm just shocked that the price would have gone up so much. Do know what the reasoning behide the price jump was?

My guess would be a few things. Him supplying the core, the fact that most 7.3s with one will never be over 500hp an likely won't break it. Most 6.4s that have them are prolly making over 8xx. And I believe he had a different out put shaft made to work with tcase from a 5r.

stroker57 · Dec 14, 2013

Groomzybanshee said:
My guess would be a few things. Him supplying the core, the fact that most 7.3s with one will never be over 500hp an likely won't break it. Most 6.4s that have them are prolly making over 8xx. And I believe he had a different out put shaft made to work with tcase from a 5r.

I see what your saying I did have to put different shaft in my tcase. When I got my 4r off Bts was asking for a v10 4r back as a core. Idk if the v10 are hard to find now or not maybe that part of it

Chris · Dec 14, 2013

MorganY said:
Thats because you havent had a 5r that can handle big power in the first place. I thought the same 4r business until I played with one that could.

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you driven a high hp 6.0 or 6.4 with a properly tuned BTS 4r?

Mike@MPD · Dec 14, 2013

Just wondering but has this 1100hp 6.4 ever been to a track?

Six_Sloww · Dec 14, 2013

stonepusher said:
I have driven a BTS 5r and the 4r still was WAY better, The same 5r has been out of the truck a more than a few times at the 600hp level. Like stated, just my 2 cents.

Thank you for your input.

If I can sell both my 5r's I think I might try this out. Either way a fully built trans is going to cost me 8 grand or more.