Cracked blocks

[Dzchey21]

You do not need that much lube. Period. All that is requires is a film between the surfaces. Any more and it's just waste.

exactly and of the excess is just wiped off the threads anyway and just makes a mess.

 

[Dzchey21]

For anyone interested in installing ARP studs the proper way, and not this "Make up my own torque for each stud" voodoo half assed bull****,

All 20 of my studs are torqued to 275 ft/lbs. The only cracking noise heard was the torque wrench breaking away.

Throw the lube packets that ARP sends with the studs in the garbage. Buy one of these cans. The packets are enough for maybe 2 studs each if you are doing it the right way.

Clean out the block holes with brake clean and air until it comes out clear. It took 5 rounds of this on my personal truck.

Put the heads on.

Spray the studs off with brake clean and blow off with air. Get all the oil and grime off of them from the box. Thread the studs down into the block a little ways. Slather the top of the stud in lube. Thread the stud in until it bottoms out. Slather the washers in lube. Slather the nuts in lube. This is how much lube you need to use on each stud (AKA - a LOT)

Torque them down according to ARP spec sheet, enjoy a properly installed set of studs that isn't warping your heads and that didn't crack your block.


Anyone else that wants to join the internet sheep and do this the wrong way, go right ahead. Don't say you were never shown the proper way to install ARP studs though.

SO how long has it been since you did your stud install? Keep checking the oil fill for milk in the oil...

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

A stud install is a stud install is a stud install. People do them wrong ALL THE TIME, and crack blocks ALL THE TIME. I know this from my own "considerable amount of experience and knowledge." The 6.4 is no different, as you see by these "experts" that apparently have piles and piles of cracked blocks just laying around.


Now that I've provided an instruction manual on the PROPER way to install studs, I'm done posting. The information is there if anyone wants it. I'll make sure and come back to read what the internet experts and their sheep have to say though, always good for a laugh.

Your an idiot.

Thanks you for sharing exactly what everyone else already knows how to do.

Now, not that I would ever hope this on anyone. You gonna let us know when your engine starts dropping coolant level?

We do all the same exact stuff you just posted. Long before you've ever touched a 6.4. Btw, when did you stud your first 6.4? We used 325 when they called for it, 275 when we called for it. After having various engines come in previously studded from other "moms driveway diesel performance" shops with cracked blocks we went into further detail as to why.

How many 6.4's you studded?

Call me back when you've done over a 100 studs jobs with zero blown gaskets.

Then you can tell me how great of an expert you are.

You ego is so big right now you should probably watch the ceiling so you don't hit.

Thanks for regurgitating the same info everyone knows. Now when you have something original and smart to say, your welcome to come back a little more humble.

You still never answered Wayne's question. When he used locktite to hold the stud in the block and it doesn't turn and bottom out, then why did he still get a cracked block?

Thanks for proving nothing, other than your ignorance.

 

[SVTDanny]

You do not need that much lube. Period. All that is requires is a film between the surfaces. Any more and it's just waste.

LOL

Maybe that's the thinking that got someone a pile of cracked blocks.

 

[forcefed6.4ford]

Apparently you don't understand fasteners then.

 

[Dzchey21]

so you really think all that lube just sitting on the outside of the nut is actually doing you any good?

 

[6.4strokin]

A stud install is a stud install is a stud install. People do them wrong ALL THE TIME, and crack blocks ALL THE TIME. I know this from my own "considerable amount of experience and knowledge." The 6.4 is no different, as you see by these "experts" that apparently have piles and piles of cracked blocks just laying around.


Now that I've provided an instruction manual on the PROPER way to install studs, I'm done posting. The information is there if anyone wants it. I'll make sure and come back to read what the internet experts and their sheep have to say though, always good for a laugh.

Thanks for avoiding my question


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[Breaking Habits]

Your an idiot.

Thanks you for sharing exactly what everyone else already knows how to do.

Now, not that I would ever hope this on anyone. You gonna let us know when your engine starts dropping coolant level?

We do all the same exact stuff you just posted. Long before you've ever touched a 6.4. Btw, when did you stud your first 6.4? We used 325 when they called for it, 275 when we called for it. After having various engines come in previously studded from other "moms driveway diesel performance" shops with cracked blocks we went into further detail as to why.

How many 6.4's you studded?

Call me back when you've done over a 100 studs jobs with zero blown gaskets.

Then you can tell me how great of an expert you are.

You ego is so big right now you should probably watch the ceiling so you don't hit.

Thanks for regurgitating the same info everyone knows. Now when you have something original and smart to say, your welcome to come back a little more humble.

You still never answered Wayne's question. When he used locktite to hold the stud in the block and it doesn't turn and bottom out, then why did he still get a cracked block?

Thanks for proving nothing, other than your ignorance.

Hey douchebag, my truck still has the first set of ARPs in it. Love you


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[Stroked777]

Not sure if troll or he's a self proclaimed expert shade tree mechanic

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

Hey douchebag, my truck still has the first set of ARPs in it. Love you


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You act like I don't know that.

Why don't you tell mr. Svt how much R&D arp put into their studs?

 

[forcefed6.4ford]

Morgan. Put down the beer.

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

But it's so much fun messing with trolls.

 

[78f100]

He may be lucky enough to have a good block that held up. Wait a while till he has done more than one and see how many crack. Not that he will ever admit it, if he does many, sooner or later it will happen.
Svtdanny you are not the only one that has ever installed a set of studs properly. I took every precaution on mine and it still happened at much less tq than even arp's go to. Most of these guys commenting here are not just someone who has done one or two stud jobs including myself. Usually I have a cab off a truck every week, so I doubt you have done as many as me much less Morgan and some of the others here that you are basically calling morons. For your sake I hope yours didnt crack. You said all you heard was the tq wrench crack while doing your studs. Maybe you are un aware where and how they crack, you can't hear it, see it, or feel it. How many miles you have on yours since the studs?

 

[drunk on diesel]

I already posted the links from a couple weeks ago where he was talking about doing his first 6.4 stud job on that VW forum.

He conveniently avoids repeated direct questions like: HAS ARP EVER REVISED THEIR TORQUE SPECS ON ANY OF THEIR FASTENERS?

I doubt I'll get a reply on the third time.

and LOL @ ARP not knowing what they're doing when it comes to providing lube... I didn't see "buy a jar of ARP lube" in the instructions How DARE you not follow the instructions to a T!

and LOL @ hearing a block crack while torquing it

 

[6.4strokin]

I think he got scared away opcorn:

 

[Stroked777]

He should go start his own forum seeing how he's a wealth of knowledge

 

[Highroller54]

Hey now he has done a few stud jobs on 4 cyl vw's and they went well so these 6.4's can't be any different. Once a expert shad tree imagineer always a expert!

 

[drunk on diesel]

I think he got scared away opcorn:

I doubt it... I thought he got scared away when Morgan first laid the knowledge on him and I posted the links of him asking to borrow a torque wrench (really? you're going to BORROW a torque wrench for such a delicate surgical procedure that you're so knowledgeable about?!) for his cab-on stud job.

But he came back for more. :shrug:

 

[drunk on diesel]

Once a expert shad tree imagineer always a expert!

lol, imagineer! good stuff

 

[Stroked777]

Hey now he has done a few stud jobs on 4 cyl vw's and they went well so these 6.4's can't be any different. Once a expert shad tree imagineer always a expert!

What's the difference??? A 2 four bangerz are just like one 6.4 v8. That's how's he's an expert