Element Injection 6.4 Triple Build

Vader's Fury · Oct 26, 2012

So you guys are going to stay with the steed manifolds and a 2.5 up pipe size even though there is all the controversy about the outlet size?

Just curious, not trying to start a argument.

Kind · Oct 26, 2012

Vader's Fury said:
So you guys are going to stay with the steed manifolds and a 2.5 up pipe size even though there is all the controversy about the outlet size?

Just curious, not trying to start a argument.

With some of the poor results with the Steeds I was apprehensive using them... However the only poor results that I'm aware of are with VGT setups.

Even so I already purchased all the material(those expansion joints aren't cheap) and I had no interest on spending more money on a 6.0 setup.

I will see how my setup performs... No one has ran a setup like this on a 6.4 so I will experiment from that bases once it is running and not from a setup that isn't at all like mine. If it spools slow I will be changing more then just the manifolds and up-pipes.

Corb@CorbinShipping · Oct 26, 2012

Kind said:
With some of the poor results with the Steeds I was apprehensive using them... However the only poor results that I'm aware of are with VGT setups.

Even so I already purchased all the material(those expansion joints aren't cheap) and I had no interest on spending more money on a 6.0 setup.

I will see how my setup performs... No one has ran a setup like this on a 6.4 so I will experiment from that bases once it is running and not from a setup that isn't at all like mine. If it spools slow I will be changing more then just the manifolds and up-pipes.

It looks like you are doing similar to what I am looking to do. I still plan on using the non VGT 62 and 75, but adding a 91 on the end. What sizes are you looking to use? Also interested in how it spools with piping that big, with the current issues with the steeds. I have the MPD log style, with 2 inch up pipes, going into a .90 housing, and it spools pretty damn quick. I am still planning to leave the two in the valley though. If I was going any bigger on the middle one, Id have to move it, or get a cowl hood... I'll def be following this, as I set up to purchase turbo and piping and bigger injectors to fuel the additional fan...

Matt · Oct 26, 2012

He's not doing trips in that fashion, Corb. 2 matching atmospheric chargers, 1 high pressure.

Kind · Oct 26, 2012

Ccorbin said:
It looks like you are doing similar to what I am looking to do. I still plan on using the non VGT 62 and 75, but adding a 91 on the end. What sizes are you looking to use? Also interested in how it spools with piping that big, with the current issues with the steeds. I have the MPD log style, with 2 inch up pipes, going into a .90 housing, and it spools pretty damn quick. I am still planning to leave the two in the valley though. If I was going any bigger on the middle one, Id have to move it, or get a cowl hood... I'll def be following this, as I set up to purchase turbo and piping and bigger injectors to fuel the additional fan...

Our setups are quite a bit different. While you are doing a 3 stage system I am doing a 2 stage. I'm running 2 into 1. Two S362 as my primaries and a S366 as a secondary.

I am curious how my spool up is going to be with the Steeds, 2.5" piping and the 1.01 open housing on my secondary.

Vader's Fury · Oct 26, 2012

Interested to see how everything works with this type of trips setup on a 6.4 as well. When I first heard about guys going trips on them I thought it would be this way.

Corb@CorbinShipping · Oct 27, 2012

Kind said:
Our setups are quite a bit different. While you are doing a 3 stage system I am doing a 2 stage. I'm running 2 into 1. Two S362 as my primaries and a S366 as a secondary.

I am curious how my spool up is going to be with the Steeds, 2.5" piping and the 1.01 open housing on my secondary.

Ahhh, gotcha. I was curious if you were doing that, or three stages... No worries. I am sold that the way I am going is the best route for me, but I will def have my eye on this thread to see how this works out, well prior to my next build with the trips... I'm basically stealing everyone else's ideas! LOL

madman1234509 · Oct 27, 2012

Corb, it makes complete since for you to do it the way youre talking because your like 80% of the way there, and the turbos you have are probably a pretty good set up to throw that 91mm in front of it. What are you thinking? a GT55r? GTX? :drool:

Corb@CorbinShipping · Oct 27, 2012

madman1234509 said:
Corb, it makes complete since for you to do it the way youre talking because your like 80% of the way there, and the turbos you have are probably a pretty good set up to throw that 91mm in front of it. What are you thinking? a GT55r? GTX? :drool:

Looking at a Bullseye S491 or S494... They are rocking for me so far, and putting a 3rd wheel is just gonna let me run each of them a bit easier... Let that 400 frame take some abuse... LOL

madman1234509 · Oct 28, 2012

Im trying to resist buying any bullseye products. I talked to some guy recently who said bullseye starts off as a borgwarner component, but then bullseye has recently started using chinese parts when building their turbos to compete price wise with borg warner, garrett, precision ect..... Anyway... Sounds like itd be a pretty sweet set up

What are the pros and cons of doing tripples the two ways? Also What would this set up, two 62s and a 66, compare to flow wise as compounds? I guess all youd really have to do is figure what two 62s and find what single makes the same flow on its own to find the atmosphere equivelant?

madman1234509 · Oct 28, 2012

Another question.... Are you running this with or without a MAF? If so, where are you going to be locating it? If not are you concerned with the truck not running right? Ive heard quite a few people say their trucks ran noticable slower/laggier without a MAF hooked up

Kind · Oct 28, 2012

madman1234509 said:
Im trying to resist buying any bullseye products. I talked to some guy recently who said bullseye starts off as a borgwarner component, but then bullseye has recently started using chinese parts when building their turbos to compete price wise with borg warner, garrett, precision ect..... Anyway... Sounds like itd be a pretty sweet set up

What are the pros and cons of doing tripples the two ways? Also What would this set up, two 62s and a 66, compare to flow wise as compounds? I guess all youd really have to do is figure what two 62s and find what single makes the same flow on its own to find the atmosphere equivelant?

The 2 62's I believe flow similar to a 80mm+. I'm not 100% sure tho.

madman1234509 said:
Another question.... Are you running this with or without a MAF? If so, where are you going to be locating it? If not are you concerned with the truck not running right? Ive heard quite a few people say their trucks ran noticable slower/laggier without a MAF hooked up

I will be running a MAF and re-wiring it to work with both primaries.

madman1234509 · Oct 28, 2012

Yea I did some calculations last night and figured itd be close to an 80mm, maybe a tad bigger. Are you going to have a single inlet splitting into each turbo? Just wondering about your MAF placement?

Kind · Oct 28, 2012

2 inlets, one MAF and double the voltage.

Dzchey21 · Oct 28, 2012

One maf should.be fine UN changed

I run a stock maf with a 6 inch inlet..works perfect can't imagine having only one maf in one inlet would hurt anything