Help me pic a turbo F450

PSD POWER007 · Jan 21, 2014

Stroked383 said:
Can I use the ats housing (as I don't have a stock intake tube) or does it have a 4 inch inlet? How long do these take to ship?

I have a stock tube that I will throw in if you decide you want my turbo.

Stroked383 · Jan 21, 2014

dsberman94 said:
if you end up needing the stock intake tube for a late 99 and up shoot me a PM. ill ship you my old one for $10 paypaled to cover shipping.

Sweet I'll let you know. Thanks!

backwoodsboy · Jan 22, 2014

PSD POWER007 said:
Is the Brute a ball bearing turbo??

No the Brute is a journal bearing turbo, which is the reason for it being cheap/easy to rebuild.

Jason correct me if that's wrong.

PSD POWER007 · Jan 22, 2014

backwoodsboy said:
No the Brute is a journal bearing turbo, which is the reason for it being cheap/easy to rebuild.

Jason correct me if that's wrong.

That's what I thought.

AirFishAutomotive · Jan 22, 2014

I would figure out your egt issue first I had the Same truck gearing and all and even on swamps hot tune with a ww van turbo towing 12k it wouldn't get over 13-1400. And a tow tune it was perfect...

PSD POWER007 · Jan 22, 2014

Before I adjusted my WG, my EGT's would get high. It was blowing open and I couldn't make more than 19-20psi. Once I put the preload on the spring, it would make 25psi and the temps dropped. I could open my gate with my hand before I adjusted the tension.

Stroked383 · Jan 22, 2014

Hard to figure out the egt issue when the turbo sounds like a siren and smokes like freight train now. Like I said it makes the boost down low but then when turning 2600 rpms its outta breath. I put just a stock van turbo on his father in laws truck and that with the little 1805 screams. I did put a little more preload on the waste gate actuator but that didn't do much if anything.

PSD POWER007 · Jan 22, 2014

Stroked383 said:
Hard to figure out the egt issue when the turbo sounds like a siren and smokes like freight train now. Like I said it makes the boost down low but then when turning 2600 rpms its outta breath. I put just a stock van turbo on his father in laws truck and that with the little 1805 screams. I did put a little more preload on the waste gate actuator but that didn't do much if anything.

Have you guys replaced any of the intercooler tract boots? I noticed a 2psi boost difference when I replaced my oily stockers with Dieselsite boots. I think the two in the valley were leaking the most. I have no more oily sludge down there anymore. Just a thought.

thuglike · Jan 22, 2014

Stroked383 said:
Can I use the ats housing (as I don't have a stock intake tube) or does it have a 4 inch inlet? How long do these take to ship?

No...BUT....You just order a Brute with our race cover(same price if you send us your ATS housing) and it will fit your current configuration no problem!!!

thuglike · Jan 22, 2014

backwoodsboy said:
No the Brute is a journal bearing turbo, which is the reason for it being cheap/easy to rebuild.

Jason correct me if that's wrong.

Totally correct!!!!

CGMKCM · Jan 23, 2014

O.P. I wonder if the valves are floating on your buddies truck? The exhaust back pressure has got to be much higher than boost pressure at >2700 rpms on the stock turbo.

My truck has same gears and weight. I tow 10k TT and stay at or below 65 MPH. The highest EGT I have seen was 1300* pulling a steep mountain grade on a 95* day in my 80t setting. Normally at freeway speeds I turn 2600 RPMs and run < 800* EGT. I run a H2e with WW2 and a Banks inter cooler also my exhaust is 3.5".

PSD POWER007 · Jan 23, 2014

EBPV operating as it should??

Stroked383 · Jan 23, 2014

O the back pressure feels like it's through the roof when driving. Feels like its trying to blow the exhaust through a McDonalds straw. After the added power of the dp over the 1805 you'd swear he's Ricky bobby. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks Alex.

PSD POWER007 · Jan 23, 2014

Man, with the WW2 on my stock turbo, I never saw back pressure over 38-40psi at 31psi of boost. It usuall stayed close to a 1:1 ratio. I'm very curious about tenants causing such back pressure. Even with the original WW did I ever see back pressure over about 40-45 psi at 27-28 psi on DP tuning when towing. And it usually stayed in the high 30's at that boost.
Something is definitely off!

gwunter · Jan 25, 2014

Any chance he is having injector issues? You said the truck had 5xxk miles on it. When were the injectors looked at last.?

Stroked383 · Jan 25, 2014

Maybe 75k on injectors. Truck starts and runs fine cold. Runs ok with the programmer. Just gets hot with anything that fuels harder. We'll see what a turbo and make sure the up pipes are clean does to it.

PABowhunter · Jan 25, 2014

Stroked383 said:
Maybe 75k on injectors. Truck starts and runs fine cold. Runs ok with the programmer. Just gets hot with anything that fuels harder. We'll see what a turbo and make sure the up pipes are clean does to it.

Have you decided on a turbo?

PSD POWER007 · Jan 25, 2014

Stroked383 said:
Maybe 75k on injectors. Truck starts and runs fine cold. Runs ok with the programmer. Just gets hot with anything that fuels harder. We'll see what a turbo and make sure the up pipes are clean does to it.

Pre turbo and boost leaks will greatly contribute to high EGT's.

KBMKVIII · Jan 25, 2014

Or rebuild the broken stocker?
I would not be taking the truck out of the garage with excessive turbo shaft play.
Let alone driving it like a madman with that weight.
Fix whats broke and go from there.

Stroked383 · Jan 25, 2014

It'd be the 2nd try on rebuilding. Took it apart and the shaft play is ok but it's intermittently smoking. I took a early 99 turbo and used everything but the intake housing because the last one ate a groove where the oil control ring sits. And he sent me a video of it smoking agin and then said it stopped. Waiting for the $$$ situation before pulling the trigger on anything at the moment.

Thanks for the suggestions!