How To: Allison 1000 Swap Using OE Parts

Dzlnut · Jun 5, 2012

Interesting.

marine5811 · Oct 25, 2012

Any updates on this?

swamp_ratt · Oct 25, 2012

I know I haven't posted pictures yet, honestly forgot about this thread. But here are some pics of the Allison 1000 behind my dt360. By changing the bellhousing and nothing else, the Trans bolted right up the dt360. It will do the same on the t444e flywheel housing as well as the cummins and all other dt series engines. Will on smaller detroits, cats, Perkins and more!

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mortal798 · Nov 4, 2012

Cool! The mount locations and driveshaft length the same?

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swamp_ratt · Nov 4, 2012

mortal798 said:
Cool! The mount locations and driveshaft length the same?

fat-fingered from my EPIC 4G

Nowhere near. Gm tcase has different yokes and ujoints

mortal798 · Nov 4, 2012

But easy to get a couple of shafts made up. How's it drive?

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swamp_ratt · Nov 4, 2012

Yeah, I'll be paying 800 for both my shafts capable of 1500hp. Truck is still being built

swamp_ratt · Nov 4, 2012

Also by the new setup, my rear shaft will end up a 5 inch 1 piece aluminum. No more crappy 2 piece steel! My transfer case output is less than 1 foot away from the carrier bearing bracket on the crossmember. So I can get away with a 1 piece at 78 1/2 inch long drive shaft I think was my measurement. That's too long for steel so aluminum is what's needed. Price also includes new slip yoke for the tcase output

co04cobra · Nov 4, 2012

Is that a built allison? I still can not see the point in this swap. You will still have to spend some good coin on the allison to get it to withstand more then 500hp. And if you are going to all the trouble to put in a dt360 why would you only want 500hp?

Not bashing on the build just trying to see the light at the end of this tunnel. Do they make an adpater to put the 4r/E4 behind the dt360?

swamp_ratt · Nov 4, 2012

Nope, 100% stock allison. Ill build it later down the road. No adapters for dodge trannys. Why would you want one a them Junkers anyway? And my dt360 will be 800+. But this thread is just to shed light on how to put an allison behind a 7.3 or 5.9 cummins or 6.0 Perkins or small detroits and cats. Since the dt360 uses mostly the exact same parts as the t444e (7.3) it's a good candidate to use as visuals for the 7.3 guys

fordfreak4life · Nov 4, 2012

swamp_ratt said:
Nope, 100% stock allison. Ill build it later down the road. No adapters for dodge trannys. Why would you want one a them Junkers anyway? And my dt360 will be 800+. But this thread is just to shed light on how to put an allison behind a 7.3 or 5.9 cummins or 6.0 Perkins or small detroits and cats. Since the dt360 uses mostly the exact same parts as the t444e (7.3) it's a good candidate to use as visuals for the 7.3 guys

He was actually referring to 2 different Ford trannies

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swamp_ratt · Nov 4, 2012

Sorry, I read that wrong. Yes there is an adapter made by Carson stauffer to run a 4r behind the dt360. Check out pipewhiner's thread on psn. But I believe he's only around the 450hp mark iirc

fordfreak4life · Nov 4, 2012

swamp_ratt said:
Sorry, I read that wrong. Yes there is an adapter made by Carson stauffer to run a 4r behind the dt360. Check out pipewhiner's thread on psn. But I believe he's only around the 450hp mark iirc

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Hotrodtractor · Nov 4, 2012

co04cobra said:
Is that a built allison? I still can not see the point in this swap. You will still have to spend some good coin on the allison to get it to withstand more then 500hp. And if you are going to all the trouble to put in a dt360 why would you only want 500hp?

Not bashing on the build just trying to see the light at the end of this tunnel. Do they make an adpater to put the 4r/E4 behind the dt360?

Its not that much more expensive to build an Allison over a 4R100 or an E4OD to hold similar amounts of power. The Allison has the benefit of more gears and better gear spacing - the Ford based transmissions have the benefit of being able to shift faster. For a daily driver, towing, or even a pulling application - I'd take the Allison over the 4R100.

DieselDC · Apr 5, 2018

Bringing this back referencing the allison 6sp. Fit is perfect. I wonder if this project ever finished? Looks like it died mid way ;(

TERRCO · Apr 5, 2018

I am fixing to buy a 6spd Allison. I was also hoping for someone else that might have done this all the way to post. My biggest worry is finding a reasonable programmer to shift the dam thing. Any recommendations?

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DieselDC · Apr 5, 2018

I already have a bts behind my dt360 but always wanted better gearing for this torque monster.

Caconversion and there’s another guy I can’t think of that sells the computers and wiring.

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DieselDC · Apr 5, 2018

Other guy is

http://www.transmissiontuner.com/Allison-Swap.html

Spoke to both and they highly knowledgeable.

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Hotrodtractor · Apr 6, 2018

If you guys are looking to put an Allison behind a 7.3 - I have a Destroked adapter and flex plate that have never been used and would make a deal on since my project died and gave up its parts for other projects to live.

TERRCO · Apr 6, 2018

Hotrodtractor said:
If you guys are looking to put an Allison behind a 7.3 - I have a Destroked adapter and flex plate that have never been used and would make a deal on since my project died and gave up its parts for other projects to live.

Sent you a PM

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