Mad stage 3 hits 605 rwhp with 190/100

alwil · Jun 21, 2012

Mike@MPD said:
We have a CCLB on 35's @8100lbs with an 03 turbo and batmowheel with 285cc's that went 13.0. which by the hp calculator is about 604 to the wheels.

YouTube Video

I bet that combo was hot

faster6.0 · Jun 21, 2012

heres a ccsb @ 7700 plus my 220 with a 4088 turbo and 190 75s,no fuel pump, no banjos, no spring.. that went 13.11 and 8.2x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpHGwDxmnSs

01PSD · Jun 21, 2012

This is nonsense, it needs to stop. The videos aim it in the right direction though :thumbsup:

faster6.0 · Jun 21, 2012

heres the same setup running against a 12.8 1/4 duramax with stage 5 suncoast, efi live, intake exhaust torsion keys cranked down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cRz1kyr15Y&list=UUCiFYcAiP24wE5yaKHzvuIQ&index=3&feature=plcp

Hotrodtractor · Jun 21, 2012

Dozers Diesel said:
not true. go to any e****/R****/M** dyno thread... nothing but congrats. We catch criticism because we are the new guys on the block and arent a mainstream shop.

I'm not going to go looking up every dyno thread - but you are crazier than the MAD hatter if you think no one every questions dyno numbers. Most likely in any of the threads that you can find there will be something like "taking it to the track on ____" or "going to tweak and head back the rollers" or "I'll toss it on so and so's dyno at this other event over here" etc... PLUS an added benefit of being one of the shops you just called out - they have a track record of producing and backing up. Just back it up and stop pretending like you are being singled out as the new guy. We all understand its new, it takes time, it takes money, etc... but you guys act like stomping your feet and pounding your chest should get you recognition - when it reality you are just alienating yourselves further and further. Its OK to be the new guy, to have new ideas, new approaches, etc... we have ALL been there - some of us more than once.

In conclusion - you are not being treated any differently - you are not being held down by the "big shops" - you are being held back by your inability to recognize why numbers are being asked to be backed up. Your continued plight about the man keeping you down isn't helping either - what will you do if you CAN'T back up those numbers? Have a mile long list of excuses? I certainly hope you can and do - but that doesn't mean that I am not going to stand up for the well being of everybody by simply asking for the numbers to be validated by a second source (another dyno, a track time, something!).

faster6.0 · Jun 21, 2012

they will be backed up. and yes we are treated much different.

Mike@MPD · Jun 21, 2012

Btw that truck had stock fuel system and trans too

Craig@MFI · Jun 21, 2012

Dozers Diesel said:
heres a ccsb @ 7700 plus my 220 with a 4088 turbo and 190 75s,no fuel pump, no banjos, no spring.. that went 13.11 and 8.2x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpHGwDxmnSs

That when you had a vgt ssx along time ago wasnt it?

Craig@MFI · Jun 21, 2012

Dozers Diesel said:
they will be backed up. and yes we are treated much different.

believe me we go through the same thing as you are now thats why we just started going to the track instead of even bothering with the dyno
because in my trucks cause my track times show high horsepower numbers

faster6.0 · Jun 21, 2012

Craig@MPD said:
That when you had a vgt ssx along time ago wasnt it?

Ssx 4088 same thing. It's the 64.7x88. Right on Craig and I have watched you go through it too and have a lot more respect after it.

madpowerstroke · Jun 21, 2012

Mike@MPD said:
We have a CCLB on 35's @8100lbs with an 03 turbo and batmowheel with 285cc's that went 13.0. which by the hp calculator is about 604 to the wheels.

YouTube Video

I wasn't in anyway saying that the 605 dyno number was a record, the other turbos I built hold stock injector records on PHP dyno. I met some of your guys at the TS event (MPD), and even told them how much I enjoyment I had ordering parts from you guys. By the way, can't remember his name but be had a black Dodge with nice Rims, very nice guy to talk to. I don't have anything to say about you guys at all and didn't, sort of brought you guys up since Marty's in same state, sorry if I offended you. Like I said I'm done with this thread, and I'll get the numbers. I have gotten a phone call from a guy that wants to help prove all the dyno numbers and track times. I will be building a stage 5 for his truck and the numbers will start to come in by end of July. He will dyno, track, and pull. Ok thanks.

jdgleason · Jun 22, 2012

madpowerstroke said:
I ahte to say this but by mid July there will be more numbers on the stage 3, and you think some members here are calling BS on the current number, wait to see the numbers I have coming. I will let members in on it, What is the hightest recorded rwhp on 175/75? I dont know but I do know what the stage 3 will do with 175/75. It will hit over just over 605 rwhp on 175/75, Do I have anyone that will like to challange that number. It will be done at PHP early July, and if I can get things going for my truck I will be trying to run the stage 5. I have alot more coming to the table and alot bigger numbers, with strange performance combo's from the nobodies of diesel to produce the most powerful 6.0 single VGT turbo ever. I will not stop and the big dogs on this forum might as well move off the porch, the diesel misfits are going to raise and it will be something to see. My truck with be dyno'ed and raced to back horsepower numbers. I thought we where on the same team, but it not than please move to the side, I'm coming and gunning hard. I have kept quite enough and have had it, I know how to build turbos better than any out there, and will show how much in the next few months. I'm MAD, and MADDNESS is what I create, I also have been busy and have some of the best out of the box thinkers helping the MADMAN. Keep your arms in and strap yourself in and get ready for the most craziest power numbers and track time ever seen for the 6.0 powerstroke.
Thank you all the,
MADMAN

Dude, I can't get over how god awful arrogant you sound in this post. You may be a decent enough guy, but let's get real here, you're swapping wheels into existing turbos. You didn't invent anything, I would guarantee that you haven't designed any wheels, housings, vanes etc. The turbos seem pretty consistent with a stage 2 powermax pretty commonly used in the duramax's. Obviously the combinations you have come up with are a step in the right direction, and I applaud you for coming up with stuff that works. However, with all due respect, you seem to be putting the cart in front of the horse when it comes your claims. Being the new guy, you should understand that claims and dyno numbers would be questioned.

Mwilbur516 · Jun 22, 2012

jdgleason said:
Dude, I can't get over how god awful arrogant you sound in this post. You may be a decent enough guy, but let's get real here, you're swapping wheels into existing turbos. You didn't invent anything, I would guarantee that you haven't designed any wheels, housings, vanes etc. The turbos seem pretty consistent with a stage 2 powermax pretty commonly used in the duramax's. Obviously the combinations you have come up with are a step in the right direction, and I applaud you for coming up with stuff that works. However, with all due respect, you seem to be putting the cart in front of the horse when it comes your claims. Being the new guy, you should understand that claims and dyno numbers would be questioned.

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Actually there's a little more to it than dropping a new wheel in. Although Adrian does come off as arrogant sometimes, he really isn't anything like that when you meet him. He just gets wound up on the forums with all the smack talk. If you had a conversation with him face to face or even on the phone, you'd swear it couldn't be that guy.

The need for track times are understood and I as well as Adrian and JJ have all appologized and promised some times to back up these numbers. Being new to the game is tough, but it is also understood that respect is not just given, it's earned. MTW is out to change the 6.0l's reputation with a great product and even better customer service.

Powerstroked162 · Jun 22, 2012

Mwilbur516 said:
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Actually there's a little more to it than dropping a new wheel in. Although Adrian does come off as arrogant sometimes, he really isn't anything like that when you meet him. He just gets wound up on the forums with all the smack talk. If you had a conversation with him face to face or even on the phone, you'd swear it couldn't be that guy.

The need for track times are understood and I as well as Adrian and JJ have all appologized and promised some times to back up these numbers. Being new to the game is tough, but it is also understood that respect is not just given, it's earned. MTW is out to change the 6.0l's reputation with a great product and even better customer service.

Since I don't want to read through all the crap and you are speaking for MADTURBO, I presume? Can you tell me what all takes place? I was seriously under the impression that he was just swapping duramax wheels over to these turbos. I haven't really paid much attention to it honestly.

jdgleason · Jun 22, 2012

Mwilbur516 said:
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Actually there's a little more to it than dropping a new wheel in. Although Adrian does come off as arrogant sometimes, he really isn't anything like that when you meet him. He just gets wound up on the forums with all the smack talk. If you had a conversation with him face to face or even on the phone, you'd swear it couldn't be that guy.

The need for track times are understood and I as well as Adrian and JJ have all appologized and promised some times to back up these numbers. Being new to the game is tough, but it is also understood that respect is not just given, it's earned. MTW is out to change the 6.0l's reputation with a great product and even better customer service.

I under it's a little deeper than swapping wheels, but it really isn't a whole lot deeper than that. Like I said, it seems like he has a good combination of parts, but any way you slice it, the parts seem as if they are already being used in other areas of the industry. With Adrian claiming to be the best and calling out other shops/builders, I want to be 100% clear on what he is doing.

Hotrodtractor · Jun 22, 2012

Maybe we just take for granted that we know the housings need machined in order to swap in a larger wheel? I know I do - I've had more than a couple of custom chargers built and been around LOTS of highly customized chargers between helping friends and doing a little teching here and there at local events. I've even modified one or two chargers over the years. LOL But hey - not everyone has a machine shop or access to one.

I am curious now though that this has been brought up - what kind of balance process is Adrian using? Just a standard balance rig or a VSR machine? What balancing tolerances is he using?

faster6.0 · Jun 22, 2012

Must be stepping on some toes here...if it were that easy, then do it yourself... We have always also been 100% honest about what turbo is from what part, and vice versa, not just label it the gzz or the xxx random turbo contraption. I have yet to
See another vendors turbos be 100% honest about where the compressor and turbine came from.