No Limit Fab Stage 2 Intake Review

[WhiteMamba_Scorpion]

Can't support your claim with facts? LOL

Also, there is NO way corporations would lie just to SELL something. LOL

BTW there is a reason that ford now uses a polymer intake manifold? I'm sure they used these just for the hell of it, and heat saturation in traditional metal manifolds had nothing to do with it! LOL

You do realize you're in the aftermarket section? Go be F'ing annoying somewhere else. Heaven forbid my intake temp increases a few degrees.... there goes my hp!!! Plus they're easier to clean.

 

[TXMile]

You do realize you're in the aftermarket section? Go be F'ing annoying somewhere else. Heaven forbid my intake temp increases a few degrees.... there goes my hp!!! Plus they're easier to clean.

Oh no! I'm presenting facts and you don't like it... get lost. Or you can participate in an actual debate with facts.... but that sounds like too much work for you :shocked:

 

[lincolnlocker]

Guys. This is a review of the intake offered by No Limit. Back on topic.

You guys want to discuss marketing and other products, start a new thread.

I really dont want to have to chop this thread.

Thanks.

sorry bossman... but he is kinda being "special".....

live life full throttle

 

[WhiteMamba_Scorpion]

Oh no! I'm presenting facts and you don't like it... get lost. Or you can participate in an actual debate with facts.... but that sounds like too much work for you :shocked:

Fact is a 1 or 2% gain or loss in intake temp doesn't equate to CHIT. This isn't a F1 team... I don't even need to use my Engineering degree to determine you need to go somewhere else as stated above.

FACT is the intake moves more , looks awesome, and is let's a big turbo breath. It's a perfect aftermarket intake for anyone who wants one. I'd be getting one if I didn't already have a turbo kit from Elite. If it fits with a duel fueler I'm getting one next year.

 

[Bustedknuckles]

Back on topic.... this No limit "cold air intake" won't provide "cold air". Does it affect HP and Mileage. Yes. Most likely negatively. Prove me wrong with unbiased numbers.

I don't have concrete facts but in my opinion on a modified turbocharged vehicle the increase in airflow will more than offset the slight increase in IAT. I don't think anyone will argue the fact that the factory intake and air filter provide the best filtration. A 6.4 with a tune will suck the filter minder closed on hard acceleration, put a aftermarket intake on and it wont, what does that say?

 

[lincolnlocker]

says the guy who's signature is "live life at full throttle". Sounds like something a lo brow drunk party girl would say.

or a guy that had it across the back of his 82 kenworth and I looked up to a lot that passed away a couple years back.....

live life full throttle

 

[Jacob @ No Limit]

Dude just drop it and go play in the 6.4 section. You're just being annoying and not informative. And a waste of pages.

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

Looks good, but much more heat will enter that intake than stock. A big part of a COLD air intake is the COLD air.



These factors are what play the role of determining an effective intake:



- How much the ambient air temp is raised in the intake.

- How much the air pressure is lowered in the intake.

- And the resulting air density.



I've only seen one manufacturer that measures all of these parameters.

Sure that would be the almighty BANKS? Lol

The stock intake filters better than all "aftermarket high flow" filters.

I would recommend you stay stock

Simple... the colder air the air that goes in the intercooler, the colder it comes out.

Except when you forget that lack of air creates a lower density charge in cylinder which leads to higher EGT's and engine heat load.

This seemed to be common knowledge. There are several good independent tests I've seen, but don't have time to find them for you. Google may provide assistance.



BTW I've seen an instance in which sand was found in a destroyed turbo... in which the root cause was determined to be an aftermarket K&N filter.

I would put money that a progaurd 7 with outerwears screen has a higher micron rating than stock. And flows about three times as much. But maybe you know different?

Intake temperatures will generally be higher than ambient conditions, but the more the system can duct cool air to the filter and preserve the cool temperature as the air is ducted to the turbo (compare air temps below), the higher the air density will be. In addition, there will commonly be a pressure drop as air travels through the filter and the ducting due to any restriction that is introduced (compare air pressures below). If the design of the system can minimize the restriction and the pressure loss, air density will be preserved.



Stock Intake

•Elevated ambient air temp 17.7° F

•Lowered air pressure 6.8%

•Combined result: air density 90.2% of ambient



AFE Stage I

filter exposed with a sheet metal heat shield.

•Elevated ambient temp 49.4° F

•Lowered air pressure 2.7%

•Combined result: air density 89.1% of ambient

•1.1% worse than stock



AFE Stage II has a fully enclosed housing with an integrated forward-facing scoop.

•Elevated ambient temp 27.9° F

•Pressure 3.0% less than stock

•Combined result: air density 92.2% of ambient

•2.0% better than stock



Airaid Intake System

•Elevated ambient temp 26.8° F

•Lowered air pressure 5.5%

•Combined result: air density 90.1% of ambient

•0.1% less than stock



AEM Brute Force Intake

• Elevated ambient temp 52.6° F

•Lowered air pressure 1.8%

•Combined result: air density 89.5%

•0.7% worse than stock

And again I wouldn't run any of those filters....


Not trying to be a dick but I've sold and installed and ran 100's of different intakes. Some are junk some aren't. If you have no real experience with them you should probably do that before you start talking. All those numbers you just put up there are junk advertising propaganda. Tell me where their actual "real world" mpg, back to back dyno, and egt numbers are? Because right now no one in the world care about an intake that has better density if it doesn't make the most gains of those three that I just listed.

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

I dynoed my truck this past saturday. I am still waiting on the dyno graphs which I will post up later but I wanted to fill everyone in with the results. For the dyno testing we felt that to get the most accurate results we would dyno mikes intake, the afe intake, and then the stock intake.

Here are the peak hp and tq of each intake:

Peak Hp
Stock-442
Afe-444
No Limit-451

Peak Tq
Stock-1027
Afe-1044
No Limit-1058

As you can see the no limit has a pretty good gain over the afe. But what was really impressive was when we started breaking the tq numbers at a given rpm.

At 1600 rpm (Tq)
Stock-386
Afe-448
No Limit-512

At 1700 rpm (Tq)
Stock-515
Afe-571
No Limit-663

At 1800 rpm (Tq)
Stock-693
Afe-748
No Limit-825

At 1900 rpm (Tq)
Stock-872
Afe-931
No Limit-942

These tq numbers definitely confirm the difference I immediately felt when I put on the No Limit intake.

Are these numbers proof?????

 

[WhiteMamba_Scorpion]

You're not understanding, or you're getting your words mixed up. In my state, a 50 degree increase in intake temp is a 50% INCREASE over ambient air temp!

the 1 or 2 percent increase is the air density!. So it does mean "CHIT". I've seen a dyno in person of a AEM intake before and after (h&s tuned truck). it lost approx. 7 total hp with the AEM CAI on. Guess what? That 7 hp lost directly correlates to approx. 1 % of total engine power once tuned.

7hp... oh god my truck can't do a burnout now.... GTFO. If it's so important to you to bash a vendor/sponsor of this page over an intake you need to just crawl back in whatever hole you came from.

It's a quality product made in the USA. Nuff said

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

Or did you just to the end of the thread and start blabbing your mouth?

Like someone stated above..... READ!

 

[RedRice589]

You're not understanding, or you're getting your words mixed up. In my state, a 50 degree increase in intake temp is a 50% INCREASE over ambient air temp!

the 1 or 2 percent increase is the air density!. So it does mean "CHIT". I've seen a dyno in person of a AEM intake before and after (h&s tuned truck). it lost approx. 7 total hp with the AEM CAI on. Guess what? That 7 hp lost directly correlates to approx. 1 % of total engine power once tuned.

Before you take a walk let's analyze this....

You're factoring point is a Dyno... So we're heat sinking a motor while it's in a still state. (No airflow) and you're talking a 1% loss to me that's to be factored in by the simplicity of the ambient air temps around. What you need to be thinking is that 99% of performance is applied in a MOVING environment where temps are circulating so why don't you get some personal factual data logs about what those advertised b.s. Intakes have actually done.


You can't measure consistent ambient air temps in a controlled environment such as a Dyno, it has to be a consistent, researched, data logged process in real world activities and driving. 1% air increase is irrelevant if I'm idling in traffic.

 

[Squat and Poot]

And the proof of hp and tq you provide is your well calibrated butt in a seat? According to the numbers the only intake that provides a increase in hp and torque is the AFE stage II.

Use your head for something besides a hat rack

I dynoed my truck this past saturday. I am still waiting on the dyno graphs which I will post up later but I wanted to fill everyone in with the results. For the dyno testing we felt that to get the most accurate results we would dyno mikes intake, the afe intake, and then the stock intake.

Here are the peak hp and tq of each intake:

Peak Hp
Stock-442
Afe-444
No Limit-451

Peak Tq
Stock-1027
Afe-1044
No Limit-1058

As you can see the no limit has a pretty good gain over the afe. But what was really impressive was when we started breaking the tq numbers at a given rpm.

At 1600 rpm (Tq)
Stock-386
Afe-448
No Limit-512

At 1700 rpm (Tq)
Stock-515
Afe-571
No Limit-663

At 1800 rpm (Tq)
Stock-693
Afe-748
No Limit-825

At 1900 rpm (Tq)
Stock-872
Afe-931
No Limit-942

These tq numbers definitely confirm the difference I immediately felt when I put on the No Limit intake.

 

[Squat and Poot]

damn morgan beat me to it while I was finding gifs

 

[Squat and Poot]

Hey guys I just wanted to post up a little review of the new No Limit Intakes for the 6.7. I got a chance to install the new stage 2 5" last night and it is absolutely amazing. I am running this kit with the Pro dry S filter and my truck loves it. The install of this intake is very easy and it only took about 20 minutes from start to finish. Before this I was running the AFE Stage 2 and this new intake is just no comparison to anything else offered for our truck right now. My intake temps are not any hotter then they were with the AFE intake which was one of my first thoughts with this intake. I have had the intake on my truck for a day and the truck is less smokey when you get on the throttle, the truck is less laggy when your starting from a stop light or trying to pass on the highway, and my truck feels a lot stronger in the higher rpms. Also my mpg seems to have gone up already about 1mpg. I am taking a road trip today and I will post up exactly how much better mpg I am getting. I haven't had a chance to monitor the difference in EGTs yet buy I will update that as well. For the people who love turbo whistle or hearing there turbo then this is the intake for you. The truck sounds so sweet with this intake on it. I plan on dynoing my truck with this intake in a few weeks to see what my truck puts out before my turbo upgrade and I will be posting up some dyno numbers. I can honestly say that this intake is the best available for our trucks. If you are tuned and deleted and have a S&B or an AFE right now I would upgrade to this in a heart beat. You will feel the difference immediately. Mike did an awesome job with this intake. Here are some pictures:

I for one would like to thank you for your quality review with dyno proven numbers.

Its the main reason why I'm saving extra money for a no limit intake after i get a no limit egr delete.

the seat of my pants awaits the sound of turbo whistle

 

[Stangr8cr]

I got my intake installed today and haven't driven much but it's pretty, definitely flows more air, spools a little quicker, and lowered egt's from what little driving I did today. Gotta get a road trip under my belt to see what kinda mileage I'm getting but im a happy camper, thanks for putting these deals together Mike, nice work!!


Keith

 

[spanky24365]

Where can I oorder this intake

 

[lincolnlocker]

Before you take a walk let's analyze this....

You're factoring point is a Dyno... So we're heat sinking a motor while it's in a still state. (No airflow) and you're talking a 1% loss to me that's to be factored in by the simplicity of the ambient air temps around. What you need to be thinking is that 99% of performance is applied in a MOVING environment where temps are circulating so why don't you get some personal factual data logs about what those advertised b.s. Intakes have actually done.


You can't measure consistent ambient air temps in a controlled environment such as a Dyno, it has to be a consistent, researched, data logged process in real world activities and driving. 1% air increase is irrelevant if I'm idling in traffic.

holy chit! the ginger said something worth while...

live life full throttle

 

[lincolnlocker]

bossmen... please clean up this thread.. it went allsorts of ***tarded.....

live life full throttle

 

[lincolnlocker]

one more post in this thread and you're getting time off.

see below, swing that hammer sir...

I'll save you the trouble. This board ALMOST full of Ass-Tards that get Butt Hurt over facts they cant comprehend bc instead of college or grad school, they went to trade school.

Bigrpowr: :flipa:

I almost forgot all of you retards have retard strength and numbers.

**** this forum and most the ass pirate rednecks here

Peace out ****s :walkin:

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