RSK planned?

redneckabbott · Aug 19, 2011

Tom S said:
Have you been chatting with them on their new design?

They're listed as well. http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/detaproduct.php?id=293
Would we need the hanger as well?

AZStang · Aug 19, 2011

redneckabbott said:
They're listed as well. http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/detaproduct.php?id=293
Would we need the hanger as well?

This would allow you to move the rear hanger forward to improve the angle of the shackle. Looks like the guys that have already done the conversion could use them too.

Shawn

Tom S · Aug 19, 2011

Not a real fun job to remove all those frame rivets. I also do not want to mess with the rear hanger as that is the mounting point for my tube steps.

AZStang · Aug 19, 2011

Tom S said:
Not a real fun job to remove all those frame rivets. I also do not want to mess with the rear hanger as that is the mounting point for my tube steps.

Yeah, I didn't think it would be real fun. Not sure if the difference in ride would be worth it either.

Shawn

NotStock · Aug 19, 2011

Tried to outsource to a different company today for cutting. Guy swore the cut would be "near as good as laser", got back the parts and the cut sucks. Has a huge taper to it. A new operating system is on its way for the laser table, tracking shows it will be here on Tues. Installers are scheduled for Wed morn and its suppose to be a 2 hr install. Should have parts getting cut Wed afternoon/evening. Just wanted to update you all that have been patiently waiting. Thanks guys

Hotrodtractor · Aug 19, 2011

NotStock said:
Tried to outsource to a different company today for cutting. Guy swore the cut would be "near as good as laser", got back the parts and the cut sucks. Has a huge taper to it. A new operating system is on its way for the laser table, tracking shows it will be here on Tues. Installers are scheduled for Wed morn and its suppose to be a 2 hr install. Should have parts getting cut Wed afternoon/evening. Just wanted to update you all that have been patiently waiting. Thanks guys

"Near as good as laser" - yeah I have heard that one before..... LOL

Diesel_Brad · Aug 20, 2011

Tom S said:
Have you been chatting with them on their new design?

no. I was on their site ordering my adjustable track bar and saw that and their new RSK for SD springs

NotStock · Aug 25, 2011

Laser is back online and will be cutting all night. I should have pics for you all tomorrow.

Tom S · Aug 25, 2011

NotStock said:
Laser is back online and will be cutting all night. I should have pics for you all tomorrow.

Awesome, I bet you are happy to finally have that up and running. Sounds like someone gets to burn the midnight oil.

pjwoolw · Aug 25, 2011

Great thread guys! Thanks to all who contributed!

NotStock · Aug 25, 2011

Tom S said:
Awesome, I bet you are happy to finally have that up and running. Sounds like someone gets to burn the midnight oil.

You have no idea. I fuggin hate being at someone elses mercy. Alas, we will finally have what we should of 3 weeks ago...

Garbage_Mechanic · Aug 26, 2011

I'm really enjoying how this thread is progressing. I really like the calm informational tone on here. Hope it stays.
I never did get around to sending what I was working on to Peroni, since it turned out to be virtually exactly what I was working on. I would like to be able to have a front reciever hitch as an option. This kit is going to adress all of the issues I have had with using the SD springs and SKY kit. nice to see SKY is listening too, options are always good.

Tom S · Aug 26, 2011

Garbage_Mechanic said:
I'm really enjoying how this thread is progressing. I really like the calm informational tone on here. Hope it stays.
I never did get around to sending what I was working on to Peroni, since it turned out to be virtually exactly what I was working on. I would like to be able to have a front reciever hitch as an option. This kit is going to adress all of the issues I have had with using the SD springs and SKY kit. nice to see SKY is listening too, options are always good.

I agree on how more threads should be where it is a team effort.

Garbage_Mechanic · Aug 26, 2011

Speaking of options, I saw a thread titled 2wd drive conversion lately that has me thinking. It was a pretty neat conversion putting a SD leaf spring axle and using all SD brackets, rear hangars and shackles THROUGH THE FRAME. How did this work out? Do SD leaf springs have a different spacing? Or how did he get around the problem with the frame rails not being centered above the rear end of the front springs? The kit we are developing here will be the cleanest SD RSK kit so far but he only remaining issue for me is the rear hangars hanging so low.

Garbage_Mechanic · Aug 26, 2011

http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4944

NotStock · Aug 26, 2011

Garbage_Mechanic said:
Speaking of options, I saw a thread titled 2wd drive conversion lately that has me thinking. It was a pretty neat conversion putting a SD leaf spring axle and using all SD brackets, rear hangars and shackles THROUGH THE FRAME. How did this work out? Do SD leaf springs have a different spacing? Or how did he get around the problem with the frame rails not being centered above the rear end of the front springs? The kit we are developing here will be the cleanest SD RSK kit so far but he only remaining issue for me is the rear hangars hanging so low.

A setup could easily be built for a through the frame mount. It would require the factory mount to be removed. By doing so however, you could swap out to SD springs and leave the ride height unaffected. The feedback from this thread and the nation thread sounded like most want a simple bolt on setup with no permanent frame mods.

A reciever center section is definitely going to be an option. I need to see where it falls concerning the factory bumper and desing around that. Again, looking for a bolt on no mods needed setup.

Garbage_Mechanic · Aug 27, 2011

Don't get me wrong, this is going exactly the way I wanted to go, I was working on it and got some parts made before time became an issue. Now you are doing the work for me and it apears the standards for fit and finish would be what I was shooting for.

I'm just a guy with more time to think than do. What I was curious about with the 2wd conversion thread is how the spring spacing worked out L to R since one of the problems with doing a no lift SD conversion is that the spring to spring width and frame width don't line up so a new solution such as altered spring spacing, offset shackles, or trimming the lower frame flange (which I wouldn't even consider)

I have a lot of pratical experience with frame stress and suspension work. Garbage trucks stress these components more than most other truck aplications due to weight (55 to 57,000 lbs) rough roads, start stop cyles and dumping forces. On a high stress frame I can just about tell you where and why things will break. Weld things the wrong way or drill in the wrong place and yu will stop the flow of stress, conentrating it in one place and causing a fatigue failure. Of course you can get away with a lot on lower stress pickups but not on mine, it has to demontrate what I have learned.

GM

NotStock · Sep 2, 2011

I shipped the first kit to Larry since the timing for Tom isnt great and Brad is out of town. Here are some pics for you all that have been so patiently waiting. Let me know what you think!