Swamps Turbos

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I was on Swamps this evening and saw thye have compund kits for the 6.4s. Has anyone put these on there trucks and had any results good or bad?
 

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tell you in a few weeks.

my truck should be going back together week after next, with a set of crossbow's as part of it.
 

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truck is at empire now.

no limit intake, cold side, springs, pushrods, lifters, stg 1 cam, machined/coated pistons, studs/gaskets, he's machining the posts out of the intake RCD style, no fuel, gearhead tuning.

nothing exciting but maybe the cam.

should be reasonably, though not directly, comparable to a stock truck.

after talking with chad at empire, we cam to a agreement, that i would only probably be giving up 20-30 hp tops going with teh crossbow's over say tow powers, and not much of a difference of egt's between the two as well, though teh tow powers would probably be a little cooler as well.

but, at almost half the money, to me it was a no brainer. i DD the truck, and tow with it all the time. and couldn't justify the extra $1200+ for not much gain, when you sit back and actually compare the two.

i'm along ways from the level, and dont plan on using the truck in a manner, where $1200+ is worth 30 hp.

i think i made a reasonable comparison, and educated decision, on choosing the right set of turbo's for my truck.

would i like the new tow plus, or a set of tow x's, yeah.

but for my needs, can't justify the money.
 

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ok Keep us posted I cant justify the extra 1200 either all I plan to do with my truck is go to the track and drive it on a nice weekend. I dont haul much and have a tdi for DD.
 

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track use, i could justify the extra money.

i went with swamps because i dont use it at the track.
 

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Installed them in my buddies truck about 9 months ago. Id give them a 6.5-7 out of 10. They were decent. I also installed 30% nozzles from swamps, downpipe, crossbows, with sh!tty spartan tuning.

Truck dynoed 604/1150 on the 310 tune.

Dynoed 3 months later, 601/1085 on the 250 tune.

Truck runs a 12.5 at 107, 1.68 60'. CONSISTANT ALL DAY!

2008 ECSB F-350, 20x10s with nitto 420s.

Truck now idles blue smoke. Believe the turbos are on thier way out. Turbos probably have around 120 passes on them, towed a 24ft enclosed with the race car in it for maybe 5000 miles. Total mileage on turbos, approximately 20k.

Switching to a single. Buying everything off a certain someones truck that everyone knows.
 

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Installed them in my buddies truck about 9 months ago. Id give them a 6.5-7 out of 10. They were decent. I also installed 30% nozzles from swamps, downpipe, crossbows, with sh!tty spartan tuning.

Truck dynoed 604/1150 on the 310 tune.

Dynoed 3 months later, 601/1085 on the 250 tune.

Truck runs a 12.5 at 107, 1.68 60'. CONSISTANT ALL DAY!

2008 ECSB F-350, 20x10s with nitto 420s.

Truck now idles blue smoke. Believe the turbos are on thier way out. Turbos probably have around 120 passes on them, towed a 24ft enclosed with the race car in it for maybe 5000 miles. Total mileage on turbos, approximately 20k.

Switching to a single. Buying everything off a certain someones truck that everyone knows.

Was it dynoed at Swamps? I belive they have a Dyno Dynamics Dynometer so that is why I ask. All this means is that the numbers would be down about 15% compared to what people are use to seeing for numbers on a dyno because of its technology. The Dyno Dynamics is 15% lower than a dynojet.
 

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No, first dyno was a land and sea dynomite. Very very accurate, since the second dyno was the same guy who dynoed craig down at cecil.
 

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Do you by chance know the correction factor of these dynos to a dynojet? Just curious.
 

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Was it dynoed at Swamps? I belive they have a Dyno Dynamics Dynometer so that is why I ask. All this means is that the numbers would be down about 15% compared to what people are use to seeing for numbers on a dyno because of its technology. The Dyno Dynamics is 15% lower than a dynojet.

The only dyno Swamps has is an engine dyno. I have had a set of turbos sitting in the garage for a couple months. Haven't had the chance to put them on. I'm a little scared to do it without studs so I'm waiting to get studs. I got a billet 71 and a 59 with a 64 wheel. I'm looking forward to getting them on the truck.

sent from the sea
 

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The only dyno Swamps has is an engine dyno. I have had a set of turbos sitting in the garage for a couple months. Haven't had the chance to put them on. I'm a little scared to do it without studs so I'm waiting to get studs. I got a billet 71 and a 59 with a 64 wheel. I'm looking forward to getting them on the truck.

sent from the sea


Ok. I have not done any work with Swamps as far a dyno, so I was not sure what they had. Thanks for info.

As far as the turbos go, studs would be a good idea, but...LOL
 
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The only dyno Swamps has is an engine dyno. I have had a set of turbos sitting in the garage for a couple months. Haven't had the chance to put them on. I'm a little scared to do it without studs so I'm waiting to get studs. I got a billet 71 and a 59 with a 64 wheel. I'm looking forward to getting them on the truck.

sent from the sea

Hurry up already!

sent while doing burnouts somewhere in the country
 

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with sh!tty spartan tuning.

I'm curious about the above statement.

Truck dynoed 604/1150 on the 310 tune.

Dynoed 3 months later, 601/1085 on the 250 tune.

Did you ever monitor rail pressure? 30% nozzles with no HPFP upgrade is asking a lot with a tune commanding 2.3ms....I'm assuming the rail pressure was way low with the 310 tune and pretty good with the 250 tune.
 
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Installed them in my buddies truck about 9 months ago. Id give them a 6.5-7 out of 10. They were decent. I also installed 30% nozzles from swamps, downpipe, crossbows, with sh!tty spartan tuning.

Truck dynoed 604/1150 on the 310 tune.

Dynoed 3 months later, 601/1085 on the 250 tune.

Truck runs a 12.5 at 107, 1.68 60'. CONSISTANT ALL DAY!

2008 ECSB F-350, 20x10s with nitto 420s.

Truck now idles blue smoke. Believe the turbos are on thier way out. Turbos probably have around 120 passes on them, towed a 24ft enclosed with the race car in it for maybe 5000 miles. Total mileage on turbos, approximately 20k.

Switching to a single. Buying everything off a certain someones truck that everyone knows.

Let me guess, the tuning was ****ty because the truck didnt maintain rail pressure without an upgraded pump.. thats definitely spartans fault
 

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I'm curious about the above statement.



Did you ever monitor rail pressure? 30% nozzles with no HPFP upgrade is asking a lot with a tune commanding 2.3ms....I'm assuming the rail pressure was way low with the 310 tune and pretty good with the 250 tune.

My truck held 16,500 with a 30% pump and 30% nozzles on the 310 @ WOT, hes probably just mad because he didnt do his homework before setting it up
 

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look at these fools stick up for sh!tty spartan tuning!
 
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