Thinking single turbo, got a few questions

Stroked777 · Jun 2, 2014

How many people have experimented with the 467fmw? Would that be another option over the 366? How much more power gain out the 67 over 66? And how would it be on stock fuel

Stroked777 · Jun 2, 2014

Also has anyone ran a internally gated turbo on single setup? Or is it not possible or wouldn't work

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jun 2, 2014

Stroked777 said:
How many people have experimented with the 467fmw? Would that be another option over the 366? How much more power gain out the 67 over 66? And how would it be on stock fuel

A 467 is a totally different charger. You talking an s400 vs s300. It will not work with our s300 kit. We will have an s400 kit out soon but for now you'd have to build your own or but the pedastal and make the rest work for a s400. And the s400 will spool slower comparatively.

Stroked777 said:
Also has anyone ran a internally gated turbo on single setup? Or is it not possible or wouldn't work

Not needed unless your gonna spray the ballz off it. And you can use a normal 6.4 gate kit that bolts onto factory up-pipe egr provision. There are plenty of those available out there.

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jun 2, 2014

An internally gated turbo would work as long as the dimensions were the same so it would physically fit in the space.

Stroked777 · Jun 2, 2014

Say it would fit and I wanna run spray, are internal gates just as good as an external gate?

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jun 2, 2014

Stroked777 said:
Say it would fit and I wanna run spray, are internal gates just as good as an external gate?

Depends on the size of gate and how much spray.

Stroked777 · Jun 2, 2014

how would a stage one cam effect a single turbo? i know the cam broadens the power band but how would running it with a single effect it? would it still be just as broad minus a turbo

Stroke_this · Jun 2, 2014

Stroked777 said:
How many people have experimented with the 467fmw? Would that be another option over the 366? How much more power gain out the 67 over 66? And how would it be on stock fuel

You can come take a ride in mine if your up for the ride.

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jun 2, 2014

Stroked777 said:
how would a stage one cam effect a single turbo? i know the cam broadens the power band but how would running it with a single effect it? would it still be just as broad minus a turbo

It will be even better. The extra drive pressure created by a larger cam will help spool and keeps the power band pulling hp higher. And since singles love rpm, a cam is a great addition.

Stroked777 · Jun 2, 2014

Stroke_this said:
You can come take a ride in mine if your up for the ride.

LOL maybe if I find myself out in tug hill one day

Stroked777 · Jun 2, 2014

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto said:
It will be even better. The extra drive pressure created by a larger cam will help spool and keeps the power band pulling hp higher. And since singles love rpm, a cam is a great addition.

Sweet thanks for the info. A lot of good info in this thread now

B585Ford · Jun 2, 2014

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto said:
It will be even better. The extra drive pressure created by a larger cam will help spool and keeps the power band pulling hp higher. And since singles love rpm, a cam is a great addition.

I realize the stage (lift and duration) will be a factor, but would you expect a cam on a single (or even a compound) to raise the drive pressure mostly down low (when trying to spool the turbo) or would the effects be about the same in all RPMs up to redline?

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jun 2, 2014

B585Ford said:
I realize the stage (lift and duration) will be a factor, but would you expect a cam on a single (or even a compound) to raise the drive pressure mostly down low (when trying to spool the turbo) or would the effects be about the same in all RPMs up to redline?

Well cam timing is fixed through out the rpm range so yes it will create more drive at all RPMs. It's most needed/noticed at lower RPMs to aid in spooling. After that the higher exhaust pulse needs to be relived or higher BP will result.

B585Ford · Jun 3, 2014

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto said:
Well cam timing is fixed through out the rpm range so yes it will create more drive at all RPMs. It's most needed/noticed at lower RPMs to aid in spooling. After that the higher exhaust pulse needs to be relived or higher BP will result.

Thanks, that's helpful. Since I am already gated, sounds like one more part I will "need" when I get in that deep into the engine.

Stroked777 · Jun 3, 2014

The specs on the cam I got from RCD are .405 lift and 182/196 duration. I'm a been when it comes to what can specs mean,

simonton6.4 · Jun 5, 2014

Stroked777 said:
The specs on the cam I got from RCD are .405 lift and 182/196 duration. I'm a been when it comes to what can specs mean,

is that there stage 2?
if so do you have to valve reliefs in the pistons?

Stroked777 · Jun 5, 2014

No it's a stage one I'm pretty sure (don't think it listed it as a stage just comparing to other stage one cam specs). No need for reliefs I was told

Mike@MPD · Jun 5, 2014

Have a stage 2 in mine with valve reliefs

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simonton6.4 · Jun 6, 2014

Mike@MPD said:
Have a stage 2 in mine with valve reliefs

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Colts website says that reliefs are not needed. Did you notice a difference mike or did you change to much to know

Poglife · Jun 9, 2014

I have a stage 2 from morgan with compounds and my bp gets pegged out down low with the Spartan. waiting on getting tune from gearhead to see if itll help