ultimate 6.4 build what would be your set up?

[powerstroked08]

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LOLLOL Nicely done Morgan! Just send me all this and send someone else the bill!:thumbup:

 

[jdgleason]

Hahaha that was funny!


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[B585Ford]

Loved the pics Morgan

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

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LOL I think I got all that part lol


What I was really wanting to talk about would be things like:

Filled block and no water vs water
Aluminum heads
Injector nozzle size
Turbo configuration and size.
True power limit of a 6.4 with out being limited by the trans
Dry sump oil set up with custom front cover and electric water pump
Maybe even a race drive F3 procharger
Also what about a elite stroker kit

 

[bft blue oval boys]

Oh wow, business must be good.... lol.

Thing is, all those you listed are things I haven't seen tried before so why don't you do us s favor and do some testing for us (especially the billet heads) lol.

I don't think anyone has found the limit of the block or injectors and you already know the heads flow like molasses in the winter time. Why don't you try triple 62FMW since you seem to like them so much? That might be stupid but like I said earlier, I have no idea how a true triple setup should be sized.

I can't wait to see what you come up with though!

Sent from a Cummins plant, driving a TDI, wishing it was a Powerstroke

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

This build is not solely funded by CED it's is largely a joint effort.


Triple 62 would be on the small side I would think.



The aluminum heads are untested yes but there are guys who have them in hand and are working on putting them on running trucks. That is far more knoledge than I have currently.

 

[powerstroked08]

Well if the budget is that good, I would definately do a stroker kit. And since your just going to compete with it why not just do the solid billet heads. I would prefer to have water jacketed ones for hot lapping but if your not doing that it shouldn't be a huge deal. But in my opinion the ultimate 6.4 would be a cryo treated block heads and internals, stroker kit, midwest fly cut and coated straight walled adonized pistons, fully balanced bottom end with knife edged crank, Rods( I think you have to buy elites long rod kit for the stroker) otherwise I would do the R&R's, all coated bearings, oil cooler delete plate(free up room in the valley for turbos!), billet cam and solid lifters, new rockers(unless elite or empire release their upgrades ones, or you can try the harland sharp ones if they still make them), ceramic coated heads(combustion chamber), dual fueler kit from midwest(using 2 K16 pumps for the ease of tuning and the added fuel and reliability of 2 stock K16 pumps vs. a cp3), 150% nozzles, and a set of tripples not sure on sizing but maybe 2 76's feeding a 66, a bunch of no limits bling, and your chouce of intercooler. But this is only my ultimate 6.4! LOL

 

[Coxey Diesel]

I think for the track a pretty big single like an FI 82 with the 7 blade billet wheel and lots of nitrous is gonna be a hard setup to beat.

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

Budget isnt unlimited thats for sure. But we want it to be competitive.

I think for the track a pretty big single like an FI 82 with the 7 blade billet wheel and lots of nitrous is gonna be a hard setup to beat.

I want quick spooling. so I dont want to do large single. Races are won and lost at the starting line. If your biggest concern is spooling your turbo(s) on the line your not going to get a perfect light. I know from experience. If you can pull up on the line and light the beams then rev up and your spooled your golden. no trying to light your turbos before you get to the prestage or worrying about the timer.

 

[Erikclaw]

How much power does it take to run a big procharger? Don't think you need it. I would be leary of a stroker kit, these heads don't flow enough to support the benefits, IMO. Ohh and you probably wouldn't get it til next year.

 

[bft blue oval boys]

Ohh and you probably wouldn't get it til next year.

Lol.

Sent from a Cummins plant, driving a TDI, wishing it was a Powerstroke

 

[Crack85]

How much power does it take to run a big procharger? Don't think you need it. I would be leary of a stroker kit, these heads don't flow enough to support the benefits, IMO. Ohh and you probably wouldn't get it til next year.

Hmmmm, sounds like he's talking from some experience...

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

How much power does it take to run a big procharger? Don't think you need it. I would be leary of a stroker kit, these heads don't flow enough to support the benefits, IMO. Ohh and you probably wouldn't get it til next year.

450-500 base motor hp. Thats one big problem with the procharger is your motor has to make so much more hp to drive it. It would make power if you could keep it together.



I would want just the parts. I could build it myself alot faster lol but still would probably have to wait a year. LOL

 

[bft blue oval boys]

Wow, I had no idea they used that much power to drive them. I'd definitely throw that out the window if I were you.

Sent from a Cummins plant, driving a TDI, wishing it was a Powerstroke

 

[bigrpowr]

no way in hell a pro charger takes 4-500 horse to drive. more like 100 .

 

[Erikclaw]

I would also cryo everything, is not too much $$ and good insurance I think

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

Wow, I had no idea they used that much power to drive them. I'd definitely throw that out the window if I were you.

Sent from a Cummins plant, driving a TDI, wishing it was a Powerstroke

Didnt say it took that much to drive. That is the base n/a motor hp. But that number doesn't really work with diesels since they arnt n/a anymore.

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

This would make things sooooooo simple and easy to work on.

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

I did a lot of stock parts removal and simplifying. Removable front clip was one of my favorites.

The build for this season consists of.
Forged pistons, lightened crank, billet rods, balanced, aftermarket heads (water cooled, they are on a few running trucks now and do work) thinking of steel sleeves in the block and might full fill it and just run water through the heads. I will be leaving the stock oil pump, they are plenty large enough, even after a run with hot oil it carried 50 psi at idle. May do a vac pump of time permits. Custom intake plenums and larger ice/water to air intercooler.

Dual pumps, 100% and large compounds, spray the rest. Trans will be your weak link anyway.

 

[3brorce]

Air side I would consider a S467.7/S591 compound setup.