6.0.4 revisited

[MorganY]

I second the Baby steps Jon, one step at a time. Get each one dialed in, then move forward. Leave the turbos alone, put in bigger injectors, see how it is, and then adjust your air. It's not like the truck is going to clear out intersections from light to light unless you aren't atomizing. In my opinion, a 76 is too large of a step at this moment. It's probably in your best interest too, to see how each progression runs if you're considering producing more of these setups.

 

[Powerstroked162]

Who makes a 76 for these? Does that require a modified compressor housing?

Stock housing. I can get you whatever you need albeit 71,72,76, etc.,

I agree with Magic Morgan though. If you plan to reproduce kits, it would be knowledge well gained to know what each step can offer customers. JMO


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[01PSD]

First I would want to be sure you have a custom tune that delivers all the fuel possible from stock injectors (extreme X or Race from Eric), just to be certain. Also, have you logged boost/back pressure at all? Just curious what it's like

 

[Lubbockguy1979]

My .02 get numbers and track times within the limits of the stock fuel system. When looking at adding fuel I would guess you numbers could/ should be in the realm of the 6.4 with enough fuel. so I would look at what they flow stock for your upgraded fuel components. Then go a bit bigger. At one time some company was making hybrid bodies which weren't suppost to have the fuel dilution issues of other hybrids. If I were going to build something larger that 190cc's I'd look into those to help with icp and total fuel delivery.

 

[peixinho]

I also agree that I would max out the potential of the stock sticks for sure...

If you are planning on making a kit there might be a lot of people interested in buying the kit but keeping their stock sticks. If you jump straight to bigger sticks and larger wheels on the turbos then you might loose a huge portion of people interested.

IMO I would do the following:

• Max out the most powerful tune and document
• Upgrade injectors (not too big) and max out completely and document
• If needed upgrade the turbos and max out completely and document
• Etc...
• Etc...

You might attract more of a variety of people that are interested in the turbo... like stock stick guys... maybe 190s guys... then maybe 215s etc... If you jump straight to the end you might miss out on some of the other people interested in the product...



I would imagine that with a really good tune you should be in the 425-475 range. Anything above 500hp would be great, anything below 425 and I would be wondering if something is wrong



just my .02

 

[Mixedbreed]

You are walking in fresh untrappled grass right now. Making a path for others. Just remember that Jon!!

I dig this thread and the lean forward mentality you have!!!

Oh and peixinho has a great great point!!

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

You guys all make VERY good points. I was thinking about my current fuel system, and how I could improve it to get more fuel to the stock injectors. My wife and I are planning on taking the truck down the MPD on October 5th and get it on the Dyno with the current tune. With this tune I am running now, my EGT's went up a bit, maybe high 700's at WOT. The tune is definitely pushing more fuel, for the first time my fuel pressure dropped to 59psi. As oppose to the SCT tune that never dropped it below 65psi. I will likely order the 6.4 fuel banjo bolts tomorrow through my buddy while scheduling head studs and gaskets.

For optimizing the fueling, what does everyone suggest. Should I build my own, from heads to tank? Buy a premade one from Elite, Driven, Strickly, etc? Or should I just stick with the blue spring and see what the 6.4 Banjo's do?

I realized when I got back form XDP i never cleaned my intake filter, I doubt it had that much of an impact, but that thing is NASTY! I will probably be junking that K&N POS and replacing.

 

[peixinho]

I could be way off base here... because I have never had 6.4 compounds on my 6.4 LOL



but are you saying that at WOT on a long hard run 0-80mph you are only hitting 700egt... that does not seem right to me. Even with all the air in the world. Heck on a stock tune crusing at 75mph running 2-4psi boost i hit 700egts...

Maybe your sensor is not working right
Maybe some is not going right with the fuel
Maybe the tune you r running is super weak
Or maybe I have no idea what I am talking about because I don't run 6.4 compounds and you are in uncharted territory :lookaround:

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

Before this project with the canned SCT tunes on a WOT run I would only hit 1000*

 

[windrunner408]

Just out of curiosity, is your EGT probe in the manifold or down pipe??

 

[bft blue oval boys]

Before this project with the canned SCT tunes on a WOT run I would only hit 1000*

Where is the sensor?...

On my truck, they would get to at least 1300+ on the canned performance tune

Sent from a Cummins plant, driving a TDI, wishing it was a Powerstroke

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
I used the stock 6.4 EGT sensor location on the passenger side up pipe.

 

[01PSD]

For the regulated return... definitely strictly diesel! Without a doubt the best, most well put together kit on the market.

 

[vcassens]

I also be leave Powerstroke Enginuities has a regulated return kit of there own with a lifetime warranty

 

[loboost]

I also be leave Powerstroke Enginuities has a regulated return kit of there own with a lifetime warranty

You're right, they do.

Rudys has a PSE kit listed on their website, but the link still has 'dozers diesel reg return' as the name

 

[Derkperk]

Would a pre made kit even work? My strickly kit was pretty tight getting in. With the new pipes, turbos and intake, make sure an off the shelf kit works. Talk to Dennis at strickly to find out.

 

[MorganY]

Would a pre made kit even work? My strickly kit was pretty tight getting in. With the new pipes, turbos and intake, make sure an off the shelf kit works. Talk to Dennis at strickly to find out.

Yes it will work.

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[loboost]

Would a pre made kit even work? My strickly kit was pretty tight getting in. With the new pipes, turbos and intake, make sure an off the shelf kit works. Talk to Dennis at strickly to find out.

I would think Dennis' kit would work. He uses banjos on the back which , I believe allow for more clearance than the 90* fittings

 

[Mdub707]

I'd do a Strictly Diesel RR, a sump, whatever filters you want, a fuelab pump, y it off direct to the heads. Simple, very effective.

Congrats on the build coming together man, you've already accomplished a LOT!

Those EGT readings still seem way off to me.

 

[Josh@DirtyDiesels]

I'd do a Strictly Diesel RR, a sump, whatever filters you want, a fuelab pump, y it off direct to the heads. Simple, very effective.

Congrats on the build coming together man, you've already accomplished a LOT!

Those EGT readings still seem way off to me.

Agreed. Either a fuel lab or aeromotive pump with whatever filter setup you want and DEFINITELY a Strictly RR. At the MPD dyno day find me again and I'll show you the setup on my truck...