Let's talk lockers

Daddyusmaximus

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That right there... ^^^^^^

Guys, a lot of this will come down to need/want vs real use vs cost. Do the calculations for your realistic usage then do the $$ math and make a decisions. Which ever you choose, it will be leaps and bounds better than the factory LS pos.

Good luck.

That $$ math can kill ya. I had to save quite some time for mine, but I'm a real impatient SOB. I'd go ballistic if I got stuck on an obstacle I could have made it over by switching on a locker for a few minutes, then turn it back off. If you wheel, you're gonna get stuck, but when you're the biggest heaviest thing out there (my truck's heavy too) the others may not be able to pull you over.
 

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What about a selectable locker like an OX up front? They make one for the D60, not sure how they hold up on a big diesel, just pitching it out there.
 

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OX removes the need for air tho... They are cables

They don't make one for the rear tho... TT or no spin rear with a OX cable selectable front?

I haven't done much research on OX though. Not sure how they hold up and perform. Most people running lockers are on light jeeps, not 9000lb trucks with monster power lol.
 
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Anybody know about the Auburn Ected locking differentials? On the West Coast Differential website they say they have one that will work. Any thoughts. I was looking into one for my Grand Cherokee awhile ago. Seems like a win-win. Limited slip when off and locker while on.
 

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I read about these too... then the guy at the 4WD shop told me they don't make one for the 10.5 Ford rear. :(
 

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I don't know how to make a link, but West Coast Differential website said they have one for ford 10.25 & 10.50 F350 1983 and up. I am going to check up on it some more after the holidays.
 

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I don't know how to make a link, but West Coast Differential website said they have one for ford 10.25 & 10.50 F350 1983 and up. I am going to check up on it some more after the holidays.

They do make a ECTED for 10.25&10.5 rears.
They don't however make one for the 35 spline Dana 60 fronts. If you have a Dana 50 with 30 spline inners then there is one for your application.
 

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I don't think I'll need one in the front. I'm just looking for a little extra help. My truck has what's left a the factory limited slip. When I first got this truck it still worked pretty good and I'm looking to get that back and maybe even a little more. My dad had an old 70s Ford one ton 2wd with a welded diff. That thing was unstoppable.
 

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I had some issue with my detroit in the front axle last week.
first the factory hubs were worn out and had almost a 1/4 turn of slop in them
second it turns out I had a SoftLocker version in the front axle which does affect things differently then the original version in that the locker will be engaged even when power is not being transmitted through the driveshaft.
so I pulled the softlocker preload springs out of it, replaced the hubs with some 1978 Spicers.
she is all good now.

I was expecting these to be broken but they were perfect


found this on Pirate4x4 during my searches to figure out why it was acting 'odd'

From: Shaw, Steve
Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 2:21 PM
To: Offroad (E-mail)
Subject: Detroit Lockers in front Axles

I just finished catching up with the list and noticed another post stating
that a Lockright unlocks easier than a Detroit and is therefore better for a
front axle application. Here's some info that I discovered using a Detroit
in my front Dana 60.

- Tractech has completely stopped making the "old style" locker for
Dana 60's (and most other's). They now only produce the "Soft-locker" for
almost all axles.
- The Soft-locker has a set of internal "clutches" that act between
the diff case and the side gears (a bit like a standard LSD). These
clutches increase the torque required to release one wheel and continue to
drag when released. This makes the units quieter and smoother, but the
additional torque bias is undesirable for the front.
- Being a Mechanical Engineer and wanting the best setup I called up
Tractech and spoke with their engineering department about this issue. They
said since the majority of their sales are either strictly off-road or rear
axle applications they hadn't fully investigated this issue for front
applications.
- They had a number of internal meetings and discussions and came to
the conclusion that for the best performance in a front axle the thrust
blocks and center bellville washers should be removed prior to installing
the unit. They told me that they were generating a tech note on the issue
to recommend this, but weren't planning any testing. They also assured me
there would be no loss of warranty and that the unit should actually last
longer with the mod.
- I made the mod and it works perfectly. The most significant
improvement is when running hubs locked in 2wd. At highway speeds (worst
case) I can hardly detect the locker. With the stock soft-locker there is a
stronger pull to center and sloppier steering (although it's not that bad
either with a heavy full size truck).

Now if I jack up the front of the truck and spin 1 wheel with the hubs
locked, transfer case in 2wd the locker unlocks and only 1 wheel spins.

I suspect that with the soft-locker clutches removed it unlocks just as
easily as a Lockright (no one in our club is running one in a Dana 60 so I
can't check this).

If anyone wants to check into this or consider doing it, I'd suggest you
call Jim in the engineering department at Tractech (810) 759-3850 (there are
two Jim's in engineering & I forget which one I spoke to - both should know
about the tweak). I
don't know if they've produced the tech note or done any testing since I
installed my Detroit (summer 1998).

So far I've put about 10,000 severe kms (including serious off-roading,
10,000 lb trailer towing, driving through 3' deep snow with 4 tire chains
and plowing snow all winter) on the truck since the axle mods, probably
about 2500 kms with the hubs locked and everything is working perfectly.

Steve Shaw
 

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Trying to decide between the Detroit no-slip and Yukon Grizzly. I've read plenty on the no-slip, but not too much on the Yukon. Anyone running it? It's a little bit less cost and has an awesome warranty... from Yukon's site:

All Grizzly Lockers are backed by the best warranty in the business! Yukon covers the replacement unit and covers any collaterally damaged parts and associated labor, up to $2,000!!!.​

Plus an optional lifetime warranty as long as you own the vehicle.
 
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Well before reading this thread I was thinking TT, but now when I do it I think I am going to go with No Slip for the rear. Probably TT for the front, but with the No Slip in the front cornering hubs unlocked would be just like an open diff, but turning with the hubs locked they are still locked correct?
 

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so for someone who likes to do donuts on pavement and power slide around turns in the rain and doesn't want anymore one wheel peel. the truetrac is the way to go?
 

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