PIP out

jwanck11 · Dec 1, 2016

higherlife said:
I still don't understand why everyone has to have an insult in their post. Really shows the intellectual level on this forum.

So any sort of tuning device that alters emissions equipment is 100% Illegal to own?

There are acceptable parameters.

bigrpowr · Dec 2, 2016

higherlife said:
This forum has become pointless with arrogant people.
And are you that naive that you can't read the previous comments to realize I didn't say i wanted a refund? He said HS and Edge took the money and ran just like PIP but they did not. They got busted, offered a recall and rebuilt. It was a ****ty comparison on his part.

PIP sent out the recall / buy back notice a month ago . send yours back and be done with it .

NCSU dirt man · Dec 2, 2016

bigrpowr said:
PIP sent out the recall / buy back notice a month ago . send yours back and be done with it .

would this be valid for those of us who purchased their tunes through another vendor? i bought mine thru rudys but i've been very interested in an EZ Lynk

Jomax · Dec 2, 2016

higherlife said:
I still don't understand why everyone has to have an insult in their post. Really shows the intellectual level on this forum.

So any sort of tuning device that alters emissions equipment is 100% Illegal to own?

It's not illegal to ownIf it's for off-road use only. So, if you trailer your $60k truck to and from off-road trails. You are perfectly legal.

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mikeeg02 · Dec 2, 2016

Jomax said:
It's not illegal to ownIf it's for off-road use only. So, if you trailer your $60k truck to and from off-road trails. You are perfectly legal.

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I must be the only one? LOLLOL

I pull it with my prius

PDT1081 · Dec 2, 2016

Jomax said:
It's not illegal to ownIf it's for off-road use only. So, if you trailer your $60k truck to and from off-road trails. You are perfectly legal.

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Not to be a dick, but if "off road use only" applies, why do we have to deal with the same emissions BS on construction and AG equipment? You know, the things that it's legal to burn "off road diesel" in?

Luke@MillerPerformance · Dec 2, 2016

PDT1081 said:
Not to be a dick, but if "off road use only" applies, why do we have to deal with the same emissions BS on construction and AG equipment? You know, the things that it's legal to burn "off road diesel" in?

Look up the RPM Act. If that doesn't pass then the EPA's position that it is illegal to convert a vehicle with a VIN for race use only stands.

bigrpowr · Dec 2, 2016

NCSU dirt man said:
would this be valid for those of us who purchased their tunes through another vendor? i bought mine thru rudys but i've been very interested in an EZ Lynk

i believe so. i would call them .

CATDiezel · Dec 2, 2016

PDT1081 said:
Not to be a dick, but if "off road use only" applies, why do we have to deal with the same emissions BS on construction and AG equipment? You know, the things that it's legal to burn "off road diesel" in?

Emissions vs road tax are two different things.

Man this all sucks. I blame TS.Performance

ImAti0n · Dec 2, 2016

Hopefully the EPA gets off their high horse and goes running with their tail between their legs when Trump takes power.

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sootie · Dec 2, 2016

ImAti0n said:
Hopefully the EPA gets off their high horse and goes running with their tail between their legs when Trump takes power.

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Let`s not be too naive...

ImAti0n · Dec 2, 2016

sootie said:
Let`s not be too naive...

Ignorance is bliss.

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Kxc · Dec 2, 2016

Just read an article about how some Cummins powered dodge trucks are under the microscope for a situation similar to what VW did. So it's not just tuners it's large company's too.

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96F350KID · Dec 2, 2016

They were here in Florida, story I got was they worked for S C T and left to start PIP. Honestly I never cared for their tuning. BUT what I heard was someone at another tuning company sent the EPA towards them. Seeing what has happened being involved in the business I come to learn the EPA doesn't do witch hunts, they're told where and what to look at.

UNBROKEN · Dec 2, 2016

96F350KID said:
They were here in Florida, story I got was they worked for S C T and left to start PIP. Honestly I never cared for their tuning. BUT what I heard was someone at another tuning company sent the EPA towards them. Seeing what has happened being involved in the business I come to learn the EPA doesn't do witch hunts, they're told where and what to look at.

Not entirely true. They had people on the ground in Texas going to every diesel shop here including several site sponsors and members shops. They were poking around and asking for shop records to see what they could find.

96F350KID · Dec 2, 2016

Because someone obviously said or sent them. They're not just gonna knock on your door asking if you sell ****** tuners. A web post, ad, pissed off person at a red light who got smoke in their hair all can cause a rise in interest.

UNBROKEN · Dec 2, 2016

Yea....someone sent them a list of every diesel shop in Texas. They visited a friends shop trying to snoop around and he's not even in the performance industry...strictly repairs.