6.7 Twin Turbo Setup

[WHY NOT]

We have had plenty of tractors with turbos and no intercololers and they pull all day long. Newer ones with an intercooler help but I don't see anything wrong with what he is doing for a temp solution.


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[forcefed6.4ford]

1st generation dodges didn't have an ic either. But then again they aren't trying to shove 900hp through them either.

 

[B585Ford]

Dan, you and I don't look at money the same way...there is no way I would be taking this chance on ruining another motor. That being said, to each their own and I honestly hope this works out for you. So what your game plan as far as the mix goes? I assume you will monitor your frequently to ensure it isn't adding oil?

 

[dsberman94]

Interested to see what the intake temps will be now. Guess it's possible it could be cooler than if it were being heated by coolant.

 

[Wayne]

So long as temps stay above freezing at night I'd recommend straight filtered water. You don't need, and the motor doesn't want the extra fuel of the methanol. I've had great luck with water injection on several vehicles, but I also know of guys who used too much, and had very expensive results. You might remember a fancy 6.0 motor I recently replaced because it was overwhelmed with a heavy mix of water, and washed the rings. This is one of those things where if some is good, and sufficiently effective, stop, or in 5000 miles, the cylinder walls will be worn like they have 400000 normal use miles. I'm sure it'll be a great temporary solution for you. Just remember gray or white smoke are very bad colors

 

[B585Ford]

So long as temps stay above freezing at night I'd recommend straight filtered water. You don't need, and the motor doesn't want the extra fuel of the methanol. I've had great luck with water injection on several vehicles, but I also know of guys who used too much, and had very expensive results. You might remember a fancy 6.0 motor I recently replaced because it was overwhelmed with a heavy mix of water, and washed the rings. This is one of those things where if some is good, and sufficiently effective, stop, or in 5000 miles, the cylinder walls will be worn like they have 400000 normal use miles. I'm sure it'll be a great temporary solution for you. Just remember gray or white smoke are very bad colors

That's what I getting at...too much may keep the temps in check but still kill the engine.

 

[Dan]

I'm sure some of you will recognize Wade Moody's truck:

Or the banks sidewinder:

I'm not the only one not using a cac to cool intake air temps...

 

[SDS97_7.3]

***k wade. That is all

 

[Dan]

That's what I getting at...too much may keep the temps in check but still kill the engine.

This engine has already outlasted those other two elite engines by 12xxxkm so it owes me nothing...

I guess we'll all find out how long it lasts

 

[Dan]

***k wade. That is all

Agreed but he's fast

 

[jcain]

This engine has already outlasted those other two elite engines by 12xxxkm so it owes me nothing...

I guess we'll all find out how long it lasts

Did you and wayne ever divulge your findings as to why the other motors let go?

 

[Dan]

Did you and wade ever divulge your findings as to why the other motors let go?

Me and who?

 

[powerstroked08]

He Means wayne.

 

[jcain]

Wayne, yes. Sorry. Worked a 26hr yesterday. Half asleep still.

 

[Dan]

Haha all good I'm sure I could have figured that out but then wade moody was in the pic and im overs here like: ??????????????????????!!!!! Haha

And I don't think I did say anything on here about that... But I can defiantly go into a big long explanation once I'm done work and have time to write a big long sob story... Basically it's tadds fault

 

[FaSSt9602]

I'm sure some of you will recognize Wade Moody's truck:

Or the banks sidewinder:

I'm not the only one not using a cac to cool intake air temps...

Not sure what this proves though? These are all dedicated drag racing or pulling trucks. They can justify throwing gobs of water/meth or nitrous at the thing because it's only for a few seconds, and they are torn down every season or multiple times a season. You are talking about using your truck as a DD. Not the same whatsoever.

I commend you for leading the charge into new things with the 6.7, but I certainly think there is a smarter way to do it than just throwing sh!t at it haphazardly. In the end, it is your money and whatnot, but damn...

 

[Dan]

Not sure what this proves though? These are all dedicated drag racing or pulling trucks. They can justify throwing gobs of water/meth or nitrous at the thing because it's only for a few seconds, and they are torn down every season or multiple times a season. You are talking about using your truck as a DD. Not the same whatsoever.

I commend you for leading the charge into new things with the 6.7, but I certainly think there is a smarter way to do it than just throwing sh!t at it haphazardly. In the end, it is your money and whatnot, but damn...

I feel like you think because I'm young I have no clue about anything........ But I do. Haha

I'll give you a little insight about myself incase it's not obvious, I'm not main stream at all. If everyone else is doing it, I'm off doing something else. For example my first truck back in highschool (2008)...

Started out as a 4.6L v6, (99 f150) but once that engine blew up, I wanted a diesel. Didn't have enough money saved up for a cummins quite yet. But I did have enough money for an 82 Mercedes 300SD. After I spent countless hours in my parents attached garage after school I ended up with a 99f150 with a om617.951 engine/ Mercedes 4spd auto. 2wd truck made driveline easy... Dropped tank, cleaned it out filled it with diesel, ripped the fuel filler neck flap out so a diesel nozzle would fit in there and of course put a stack in the box.

Did it work? Hardly. Highway gears in the Ford kept the Mercedes engine too low in its rpm range on the highway making it sluggish. 0-60 mph in 1min 20sec. Awesome mileage! 1000km/ 100L tank. But did anyone else have one? Nope. And did I learn a lot? Oh yeah!

Might not make sense to most people why I do what I do, but I do it for the lols and to educate myself. How else will I get old and wise? Tell my children "you must always intercooler your Diesel engine" and when they ask why all I'll be able to tell them is "cause the guys on psa said so"... Hahaha

Wiring could have been neater

Notice the Mercedes cluster mounted in the Ford dash... Was the easiest way for me to get a few gauges to work... Fuel level gauge didn't work

 

[swinky]

And that has what to do with a 100k dollar 6.7?

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[Six_Sloww]

Honestly I wouldn't even explain yourself.. There's some guys that will form their own opinion no matter what you do, they are the vocal majority, but that's how the Internet is.. There will be 5 guys telling you that you're an idiot and you should build your truck the way they want you to; then there's 100 guys sitting back and watching going "fu** it not my money, I wonder how this is going to work out?"

Obviously no intercooler isn't going to be some revolutionary great mod... But idfc if you hinder the performance of your truck.. It's your truck!

Some people have very specific goals when they go to build their truck and to each their own. but some of us are in it purely for the sake of building it and trying sh** out.

It's a hobby.. Why would anyone tell you how to enjoy it? Makes no f***in sense to me.

 

[Dan]

Swinkie:

I'm the guy running the show.... So if you don't like it, do it better yourself