NEW 6.4/6.0 Manifolds just in!!

Rene G · Feb 10, 2012

Looks good, can't wait to see the final version.

KEM Performance · Feb 11, 2012

forcefed5.9ford said:
More info on the down pipe if you please. Cab off only install?

Down pipe was already on the truck. The transmission was out of the truck for a Suncoast upgrade when the DP was installed which made it an easy install at that point.

PowerStroke Connection · Feb 11, 2012

Yes, definitely cab off install. There just isn't enough room to work with it on

PowerStroke Connection · Feb 11, 2012

It's a 4" down pipe that was on the truck when it was dropped off. We compared it to a couple other we have and they are all pretty much the same, so we figure our up pipes will work with most of them. We did clearance the down pipe just slightly and with the wrap on the pipes they rest against each other nicely and fit very well.

blackmonster · Feb 11, 2012

Nice!!

PowerStroke Connection 2 · Feb 13, 2012

Manifolds

Update, truck is done and running sounds really good. Seems to have a deeper note. Runs really good spool up is almost instantly. We will have dyno information soon.

patrickke · Feb 13, 2012

No videos?

PowerStroke Connection · Feb 16, 2012

INITIAL RESULTS ARE IN

Here are some graphs of our dyno testing yesterday on the Manifolds.

Note the RED graphs are the AFTER manifolds installation.

Our dyno is a Dynojet 248.
This is an INERTIA dynop Not a loaded one.

Typically loaded and street number gains will be considerable higher!

You'll see the first part of the graph were I'm rolling into the throttle to keep it from downshifting or coming out of lock up. The key here is looking at the difference in the graphs a little later on and assuming that difference will carry through the entire RPM range.

I'm working on all the data we captured to decipher the back pressure realtion to boost. The spool up time and EGT differences.

Plans are being made to do the second install and the final version of up pipes and traveling to a load dyno for other number comparison.

To summarize: These manifolds made a SIGNIFICANT difference in every aspect. Power and Torque are up, drivability is better than before. Temps are lower. Truck now has a deeper and smoother tone to the exhaust.

smokinstroker · Feb 16, 2012

Now this may be a stupid question, but why does it look like with the manifolds, the graph doesn't start until later in the rpm band?

PowerStroke Connection · Feb 16, 2012

smokinstroker said:
Now this may be a stupid question, but why does it look like with the manifolds, the graph doesn't start until later in the rpm band?

Definately NOT a stupid question at all.

Its all about the timing of how I'm able to squeeze the throttle to full throttle with out it downshifting or coming out of lock up.

Pay more attention to the difference in the graphs rather than the beginning

On all of the graphs you can assume full throttle opening at 2300 RPM.

When doing an automatic transmission you can't simply mash the pedal at the start of a run or it'll downshift and the run is useless. So I have to roll into and try to duplicate the pattern over and over which is very difficult, Small changes IE manifolds, change the parameters the engine is running in and cause changes to occur like shift timing and lock up rpms and so forth.

But rest assured we will be duplicating these tests at a loaded dyno facility for the final versions and production up pipes

kyle43335 · Feb 16, 2012

roughly 30hp

and 50tq +/- 5

dstryr · Feb 16, 2012

Maybe pick up a dyno only tune so it locks it in so it won't down shift?

PowerStroke Connection 2 · Feb 16, 2012

Manifolds

Dyno tune works on some trucks, but not all of them. Peak to Peak numbers before and after were 24hp - 38 Tor. , Best Gain numbers before and after were 34 hp - 90 Tor. this is on dyno run 2 and dyno run 9 below 2 grand. And then carries thru out the rpm band.

weekendwarriorfsw32 · Feb 16, 2012

Good numbers, lets get some videos!

KEM Performance · Feb 16, 2012

Well I have to say that the drive home was definitely FUN last night although anything more than 1/8 throttle in the rain proved useless. The throttle response is simply amazing! It is a whole new truck. Thank you Tom and Dan for letting me hang out with you and spend the day on the dyno.

Mike

jdgleason · Feb 16, 2012

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have input as to why the numbers fall off after 3300?

White_monster · Feb 16, 2012

Cam maybe.

PowerStroke Connection · Feb 16, 2012

jdgleason said:
Just out of curiosity, does anyone have input as to why the numbers fall off after 3300?

This is a no load dyno, inertia only! The Dynojet is only capable of a 4,000lb load so we can't maintain the boost level in that RPM Range.
As far as the 'dip' goes, we will figure that out!