One Up Off Road Traction bars.

[tensixniner]

I have both OUO parts on my truck and PMF parts on my truck. I cant say from experience on the traction bars, that ones from one manufacturer is going to out perform the other. My opinion is OUO makes a product that is far better based on a fit and finish aspect/made to correct specifications.

Can you post pics of the differences you see?

 

[INFRNL]

I have both OUO parts on my truck and PMF parts on my truck. I cant say from experience on the traction bars, that ones from one manufacturer is going to out perform the other. My opinion is OUO makes a product that is far better based on a fit and finish aspect/made to correct specifications.

Can you post pics of the differences you see?

I would like to see close ups as well. Looking at the pics on PMF's site, seems like PMF parts are built just as nice.

Maybe he means that it looks like there is more involved in the design (not sure what words I'm looking for).

 

[bigrpowr]

I do not know the details. I figure they did not use the min 8" overlap rule.


As far as the guy asking about the difference, they are 2 different designs. I think you are opening up a can of worms an will never get the answer you are looking for.
Anytime someone asks you just get a bunch of crap for answers and the ouo fanboys say theirs are the best and everything else is junk.
I know this to be total crap because traction bars have been around way longer than ouo with great results. I don't doubt that ouo makes a killer product, I just hate how their fans talk down on everyone else. There are different markets for different products, just the same as everything else in life.
I myself am trying to decide on ouo or pmf but I have not found a clear answer cause these threads always turn into a pissing match.
There is a guy in the 6.7 section that currently has the ouo but is trying pmf on his other truck, hopefully he will share some good info. I do not think any of the ouo fanboys have tried pmf. They just talk down on pmf without physical proof of pmf being inferior. They are also all close friends from what I gather.
I personally feel that noone should talk down on another company even if their product isnt of the same class. They should word it in a way that does not put the other guy down, how hard is that. As I said before, there are different markets for everyone. One last thing before I drag this out to far. I hear a lot that you get what you pay for. That is a crap statement. While this may be true in some situations, this is not always true.

I would wait to see what the guy that is going to use both ends up saying. Other than that, I think your out of luck

This is kind of like a dodge vs chevy, vs ford deal. Everyone has their opinion and there is no one clear winner

im sorry but from your first post you seem to have had an opinion from the get go. i think OUO has happy customers and they speak about it. its not their fault for that is it?

ive had 4 sets of the adaptable length and made pretty decent power on every set with no failure to speak of. other than the time i forgot to move a lift bar and bent the front bar when i went up with the lift, and they replaced it for free. fit , finish and quality were top notch.

 

[INFRNL]

im sorry but from your first post you seem to have had an opinion from the get go. i think OUO has happy customers and they speak about it. its not their fault for that is it?

ive had 4 sets of the adaptable length and made pretty decent power on every set with no failure to speak of. other than the time i forgot to move a lift bar and bent the front bar when i went up with the lift, and they replaced it for free. fit , finish and quality were top notch.

I am not 100% sure what you mean about me having an opinion from the get go, but I have an idea of what you are saying. Just not quite sure how to take it.
I will try to say this without getting too in depth and kindle the fire. I will try to answer your question directly and add as necessary.

Ea company has their happy customers and ea has their unhappy customers. I agree that they should share their experiences, good or bad. There is nothing wrong with this at all and this is why this ouo thread was started.

Where you think I had my opinion from the start is when I commented about the guys asking about ouo and pmf. We all know questions like this in a dedicated ouo thread it going to bring back the past, and it will most likely not be good in the end. The guys question will never get answered. I did add some additional info in that post probably because I have been going back and forth through different threads today and probably combined all my thoughts into that post. There are some members that are very biased towards ouo and extremely anti pmf; which equates to unproductive info for those in need.

Also, maybe I should have chose a better word than fanboy. I have nothing against anyone either and have been treated well from them. However I have only questioned them about ouo bars. I also do not agree with how they answer some questions that get asked. There are better approaches to answering some of those questions.

I am not biased to either side as I do not have experience with the actual products. I have asked questions from the guys running ouo bars and got answers and I have also talked to PMF and got answers, but....
I am honestly torn on which direction to go. I like features of both ouo and PMF. Honestly I think I like the ouo design more, but I'm still exploring my options to be sure I make the best decision for my needs.

I appreciate you sharing your experience with your ouo bars. It was just a concern that popped up from what a guy told me that was selling a used set of fixed length bars. I thought it sounded fishy and just wanted to see if anyone had ever heard of a similar situation.

 

[bigrpowr]

I am not 100% sure what you mean about me having an opinion from the get go, but I have an idea of what you are saying. Just not quite sure how to take it.
I will try to say this without getting too in depth and kindle the fire. I will try to answer your question directly and add as necessary.

Ea company has their happy customers and ea has their unhappy customers. I agree that they should share their experiences, good or bad. There is nothing wrong with this at all and this is why this ouo thread was started.

Where you think I had my opinion from the start is when I commented about the guys asking about ouo and pmf. We all know questions like this in a dedicated ouo thread it going to bring back the past, and it will most likely not be good in the end. The guys question will never get answered. Hopefully I explained myself well enough. Let me know if you would like to discuss it more or If I did not answer clearly enough.
Also, maybe I should have chose a better word than fanboy. I have nothing against anyone either and have been treated well from them. However I have only questioned them about ouo bars. I also do not agree with how they answer some questions that get asked. There are better approaches to answering some of those questions.

I am not biased to either side as I do not have experience with the actual products. I have asked questions from the guys running ouo bars and got answers and I have also talked to PMF and got answers, but....
I am honestly torn on which direction to go. I like features of both ouo and PMF. Honestly I think I like the ouo design more, but I'm still exploring my options to be sure I make the best decision for my needs.

I appreciate you sharing your experience with your ouo bars. It was just a concern that popped up from what a guy told me that was selling a used set of fixed length bars. I thought it sounded fishy and just wanted to see if anyone had ever heard of a similar situation.

well the "ouo fanboy" comment being thrown out there multiple times is what led me to believe you had some opposition. how should those of us happy with ouo take that?

as for the guy "selling" fixed length and trashing the adjustable, well there you go lol. one of my trucks is 800 and the other is over 1000 with no binding and no rear axle issues whatsoever. again just speaking from experience, hope it helps either way.

 

[Spatel23]

Farmboy Fabrications.........ftw!

 

[INFRNL]

well the "ouo fanboy" comment being thrown out there multiple times is what led me to believe you had some opposition. how should those of us happy with ouo take that?

as for the guy "selling" fixed length and trashing the adjustable, well there you go lol. one of my trucks is 800 and the other is over 1000 with no binding and no rear axle issues whatsoever. again just speaking from experience, hope it helps either way.

Thanks again for sharing your experience/info and I apologize for the fanboy part. I am not so good with words and I can understand where you are coming from with that comment from me.

 

[Layson]

I have never heard of adjustable length traction bars breaking.

 

[INFRNL]

I have never heard of adjustable length traction bars breaking.

Idk, maybe the guy was making up stuff to get me to buy his fixed length bars. I told him I wanted the adjustable ones, then he came out with the story that he has seen them break

I have never heard of any problems from normal use.

 

[NotStock]

Idk, maybe the guy was making up stuff to get me to buy his fixed length bars. I told him I wanted the adjustable ones, then he came out with the story that he has seen them break

I have never heard of any problems from normal use.

Since this has kinda turned into another PMF/OUO, lets be clear that whoever he spoke to was not me or anyone affiliated with PMF.

 

[Breaking Habits]

Since this has kinda turned into another PMF/OUO, lets be clear that whoever he spoke to was not me or anyone affiliated with PMF.

Not really. I dont think anyone's really on you dude

 

[NotStock]

:toast:

 

[Erikclaw]

INFRNL is right in the aspect when ever any of these two companies get compared to one another it becomes a big pissing match. There has never been a good ending that I can remember.

 

[Aaron S]

I dont have a picture that is going to show anything worth while. I own PMF front leaf spring hangers, so I could install the longer rear leafs from the newer trucks. Each hanger spaces the leafs .18 of an inch further away from the frame than the factory hangers. The leaf and shackle bushings twist up pretty good when the U bolts are tightened up. Not as important, but the leaf spring mounting bolt hole is drilled to small.

Maybe my expectations are too high. I dont know.

 

[INFRNL]

Since this has kinda turned into another PMF/OUO, lets be clear that whoever he spoke to was not me or anyone affiliated with PMF.

Hey Trevor,
I do not think there was anything said about you or ouo in a bad way in this thread. Nothing has really been said about pmf at all in this thread.
There was a guy that was asking about the differences between your bars and ouo. Thats when I said that was a bad idea and would not go/end well.

However the part you quoted from me was a bout a guy I found in a fs thread on one of the forums. I think he has his own shop of some sort. He is selling a used fixed length set of ouo bars. I told him I wasn't interested in them and originally thought they were the adaptable bars. I told him nevermind. This is when he claimed that he had seen the adaptable bars break. So I thought I would ask here if anyone has ever had problems or heard anything similar.

It was definitely not someone speaking for you or anything of the sort. Just some random guy. Also he was not bad mouthing anyone.

 

[Wayne]

I can't remember who asked, but since I don't feel like looking it up, I'll just post the pic of my traction blocks finally installed, showing how they fit with inside the frame air bags, and a B&W 5th wheel hitch. With the mounting bracket for the bag integrated into the traction block, it made for a really clean install of the bag compared to what I had before.

 

[INFRNL]

I can't remember who asked, but since I don't feel like looking it up, I'll just post the pic of my traction blocks finally installed, showing how they fit with inside the frame air bags, and a B&W 5th wheel hitch. With the mounting bracket for the bag integrated into the traction block, it made for a really clean install of the bag compared to what I had before.

Hey Wayne,
I am one that asked if I could meet up with you to see the ouo products in person. Ill send you a pm about that.

I also wanted to ask what your original setup was? Glad you like the new setup better

 

[weekendwarriorfsw32]

Sorry I missed this. Couple weeks ago we had to move one of our D5 dozers on a 35' goose up to a well site that was 10 miles off the beaten path. There were many washouts and small rivers where the water eroded the road and I didn't have a single issue with the bars at all. In my mind if I was ever going to have
an issue with them that would have been the time.

nick, these work very well while towing? thats my only concern with adding bars to my dually... im assuming they are fine since you put your 450 through the paces in whatever your doing with it?

 

[lincolnlocker]

thats badazz nick. thanks for sharing! on the 450, did you extend the bars to the max or parallel to the drive shaft?

live life full throttle

 

[SAK]

thats badazz nick. thanks for sharing! on the 450, did you extend the bars to the max or parallel to the drive shaft?

live life full throttle

Each truck will be different, when I say that it had to do with the leaf springs themselves. You want to mimic the axle path, so that will determine how long you setup the bars. On the 99-05 they will be shorter than the 08-13.

The angle of the driveshaft has nothing to do with the length our angle of the bars.

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