Pmax compounds?

[TooMuch03]

i don't know what he had before he got the stage 3 Lance. I just know with the stage 3 and 190/100's put his truck at 648hp according to track time/speed. I'm not saying that the 66mm isn't gonna be a good option...cause it definity is a good one. I'm just throwing the stage 4 out as an option even thow it's more of an expensive one than the 66.

I had a batmo/pmax on the ol girl before the MTW

We are talking about the truck that made over 600 rwhp based on track times with 190s and the pmax right...

 

[smokedout250]

Everyone can say what they want but the agreement on mtw stuff has been yes Adrian build a great turbo.. I'm not sold on them mainly becuase of the cost and reliability.... Single non Vgts have always shown to last.... Compounds is one of those things I have always wanted to run same goes for procharger but the single is a quarter the price of both setups.. All the items and setups we have discussed are great options and any of then would work... But I'm thinking the single 66 is prolly where in headed....


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[Pizza pig]

This may help your decision
http://http://youtu.be/HvSp0Ronkgk

1/2 throttle to 30mph, 3/4 throttle until 40mph then to the floor. Fun truck on the street and no smoke WOT with 225/100 and a ffile from Matt with some fuel pulled back to maintain icp. If your trans is stock it will last a while if youre not beating it. Need good tuning to make it last.

 

[strokin6L]

We are talking about the truck that made over 600 rwhp based on track times with 190s and the pmax right...

That was with the stage 3 and 190's Adam. Like he said tho...he did have a pmax on it before the stage 3. The over 600hp based on track time was with the stage 3. Regardless....I'm sure the OP will love the 66 if he gets it

 

[Josh@DirtyDiesels]

Here's another that might help your decision... Not even close to WOT. Very quick spool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG8ODuB3s8M

 

[smokedout250]

This may help your decision
http://http://youtu.be/HvSp0Ronkgk

1/2 throttle to 30mph, 3/4 throttle until 40mph then to the floor. Fun truck on the street and no smoke WOT with 225/100 and a ffile from Matt with some fuel pulled back to maintain icp. If your trans is stock it will last a while if youre not beating it. Need good tuning to make it last.

Matt's who I run for all my tunning. I'm toying around with a couple ideas for setups after doing some research it looks like I really need to set a hp goal for the truck.. It was 500hp but I'm at that now... So the setups in thinking of are 190/100s with a 64, or 205/100 and a 66.... I would like 600hp fuel only but... High 500s would work I can always. spray it if I want more...

Stock trans prolly wot be around for very long but at least a year if I can keep for tearing it to


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[Josh@DirtyDiesels]

No reason it shouldn't make 600+ with 205/100's and a 66

 

[smokedout250]

No reason it shouldn't make 600+ with 205/100's and a 66

So what would 190/100s do with a 64?


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[TooMuch03]

That was with the stage 3 and 190's Adam. Like he said tho...he did have a pmax on it before the stage 3. The over 600hp based on track time was with the stage 3. Regardless....I'm sure the OP will love the 66 if he gets it

I know that, but IIRC it went like 12.7 at a claimed weight of 8k lbs, which would put it over 600 rwhp, with the pmax. Maybe my memory is bad, but I don't have the time to search for the original thread.

 

[windrunner408]

So what would 190/100s do with a 64?

I would expect around 530-550hp with such a setup, being conservative.

I know that, but IIRC it went like 12.7 at a claimed weight of 8k lbs, which would put it over 600 rwhp, with the pmax. Maybe my memory is bad, but I don't have the time to search for the original thread.

You are correct Adam. This is the same truck.

 

[smokedout250]

I would expect around 530-550hp with such a setup, being conservative.
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I'm putting down little over 500hp with 175/stock... And a powermax that isn't cleaning everything up all the way... An no fuel system... I figured 190/100s would be well north of 550..

And I have track time to price 501hp

My first time at the track saw 13.6@98 that's with 15mph head wind truck weighs in at 7700lb



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[Mdub707]

This thread made my head hurt. Greg, loved the Anne Frank drop LOL

 

[windrunner408]

Shoot, about to buy one to shut people up :blah:

I'm looking to do the same thing.:grouphug: LOL

I am going to jump on the non VGT bandwagon. 64/66 something along those lines with a higher stall converter and 205's to ensure you have ICP.

I'll jump on the VGT bandwagon. Mostly because of what I have seen that they are capable of and have experience with. However, I will also agree that it is pretty much impossible to beat the bang for the buck performance of a S366 with divided up-pipes. Especially if you have any fabricating and wrench turning skills at all as well as the requisite equipment. I would probably lean more towards this direction as well if I didn't know (for the most part) what is involved in building a big VGT and having the resources to making it work great.

I will say though (just as food for thought), that (with my Stage 3) I could have the transmission in OD with the converter locked at 50 mph (1500 rpms) and I could get it to light off and build boost (basically the same behavior as a stock turbo at 1250-1300 rpms). I have yet to see any single non-VGT (that is capable of making similar power) have that sort of characteristic.

I think the bottomline though is that with the same size injectors, a "MTW VGT turbo" will make more power than a "non-VGT turbo" and have better street mannerisms (of course which is subjective IMO). This of course, isn't to say that the non-VGT turbos are garbage or not worth comparing or not more cost effective. I just really think it comes down to personal preference and if running a little bigger injector and paying a little less for the turbo that might not be quite as streetable is ok with you, then go for it. It's all good. :toast: Hope this makes sense. Best of luck OP with the build.

 

[Pizza pig]

At 50mph in over drive i can build no problem at that same rpm with my setup. This video was 50-55mph rolling into it to pass someone, no smoke out the tailpipe either. Video ends at 65mph when let off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6fLTztRDM

 

[strokin6L]

Kinda hard to tell from my phone, but what kinda reject installed your gauges?

 

[Pizza pig]

Same guy that installed the plastic chrome gear and stickers all over your truck...

ps: I need a new pod, these gauges dont fit this fantastic piece of plastic.

 

[strokin6L]

Sorry no more stickers. And only plastic chrome there is is the door handle covers. Was gonna say my neck hurts from watching it lol

 

[windrunner408]

At 50mph in over drive i can build no problem at that same rpm with my setup. This video was 50-55mph rolling into it to pass someone, no smoke out the tailpipe either. Video ends at 65mph when let off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6fLTztRDM

Nice. I like it.

 

[Dieselcraft]

Same guy that installed the plastic chrome gear and stickers all over your truck...

ps: I need a new pod, these gauges dont fit this fantastic piece of plastic.

A good Chuckle

 

[4.0l sahara]

As soon as I opened this tread I knew it would be a vgt vs non vgt pissing match. If it was me it would be getting a non vgt turbo.