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[Mdub707]

Will I'll be the guine pig on this one fellas lol!!! I'm trying a quadzilla and Hypermax. I've spoke with both company's and neither communatcate With the tcm.

How are you going to use these two programmers to compensate for the mods you have done though? Seems like taking a huge step backwards.

Don't get me wrong guys, shift on the fly would be really nice, but a long time ago I just accepted the fact that it's not going to happen, safely anyways.

How long does it take you to change tunes now? 5 min? Seems like a short amount of time to deal with versus trying something like this and doing some serious potential damage. Just my $.02. I hope you find what you're looking for, we will all be here waiting for the results.

 

[jdc753]

I'm watching this just cause its something different and experiments are always good. Hope you achieve your goals and get the driveability and power you are after.

Well everyone would like shift on the Fly
and honestly My edge juice with attitude made the same seat of the pants power as My custom tunes ,, so it is a good question ,, but I won't be the first to try it lol

Honestly I have no need or desire for shift on the fly, but my truck is stock with a tune only. I could imagine with big injectors or turbo mods that a race/daily tune and a tow tune would be nice to have. I run my xtreme race all day and all year and that includes unplowed or iced over roads in the winter, right foot controls it all. Towing though I usually just throw it to stock if its gonna be for a long distance or 10k+

 

[mgeistman]

Well xdp emailed me and and the quadzilla is on back order so idk when it will come in

 

[mgeistman]

How are you going to use these two programmers to compensate for the mods you have done though? Seems like taking a huge step backwards.

Don't get me wrong guys, shift on the fly would be really nice, but a long time ago I just accepted the fact that it's not going to happen, safely anyways.

How long does it take you to change tunes now? 5 min? Seems like a short amount of time to deal with versus trying something like this and doing some serious potential damage. Just my $.02. I hope you find what you're looking for, we will all be here waiting for the results.

Can you educate me on what I need to be compensating for with bigger injectors and non Vgt turbo? no one can explain there reasoning? Only reasoning is "just because"??

 

[Pizza pig]

I still think this is a bad idea, and its going to be SMOKEY as all can be, just nature of the box programmers, throwing fuel and timing, no real thought process into the tuning. Man for the sake of the truck be happy with custom built tunes that make the truck run well and properly.

 

[GreenMachine]

I still think this is a bad idea, and its going to be SMOKEY as all can be, just nature of the box programmers, throwing fuel and timing, no real thought process into the tuning. Man for the sake of the truck be happy with custom built tunes that make the truck run well and properly.

I don't think you read the OP thoroughly. Youve got him wrong an that Isn't what he's after.

 

[mgeistman]

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I don't think you read the OP thoroughly. Youve got him wrong an that Isn't what he's after.

 

[Pizza pig]

I don't think you read the OP thoroughly. Youve got him wrong an that Isn't what he's after.

How so? I know what he's trying to do. Ill leave this thread be, because Ill have nothing positive to add. Hope you find what you're after man.

 

[mgeistman]

btw, from the amount of views it seems like few people would be intrested in this so i will have no problem admitting this wont work (if it does't) after i get the results.

 

[mgeistman]

once again its just curiosity killing the cat here

 

[mgeistman]

Greg do you know how custom tuning makes the icp, ect..... change the parameters?

 

[mgeistman]

dont worry about negitive things eather, its what this is here for! all educated opinions and facts welcome in my book!

 

[Twinturbostroker]

I've been quietly lurking to see what you come up with, but what I think Greg was trying to get at was the fact even if you find something that will give that "on the fly" aspect you are looking for, its only going to be a "canned or generic" type tune. Based on your mods, you really need a custom tune done.......kinda like the comment I made about H&S and if you get it custom tuned, you lose the "on-the-fly" because so many things, such as parameters and codes, need to be changed, that simply can't be done while the truck is running or "on the fly"......at least not yet.

So I guess what I'm getting at is that Greg was trying to tell you, even if you get it to work your going to be disappointed as you won't be getting the most out of truck with canned tune and your best bet, at least for know, is to just get a one off custom tune from the tuner of your choice

 

[mgeistman]

as far as changing parameters goes isnt custom tuning just reflashing the parameter changes perment to the pcm, and a fooler box is fooling the parameters the factory flash on the pcm?

 

[Pizza pig]

Precisely what I was getting at Julian. Im just using these numbers as an example, this is in no way a real world comparison LOL. Lets just say at 1400rpm the ecm is commanding 1900ms of pw, thats 1900ms on a stock nozzle injector. Now add a 100% nozzle and stroked body into the mix and that 1900ms of pw is going to be emptying A LOT more fuel.

Ill leave someone who is far more knowledgeable with tuning than me to comment.

 

[mgeistman]

Precisely what I was getting at Julian. Im just using these numbers as an example, this is in no way a real world comparison LOL. Lets just say at 1400rpm the ecm is commanding 1900ms of pw, thats 1900ms on a stock nozzle injector. Now add a 100% nozzle and stroked body into the mix and that 1900ms of pw is going to be emptying A LOT more fuel.

Ill leave someone who is far more knowledgeable with tuning than me to comment.

keep going PLEASE! these are the type of answers im looking for!

with that being said why when i drive it on a extreme street tune for stock injectors it smokes less and runs cooler then a MILD street tune taillored for 205/100's?

 

[Twinturbostroker]

keep going PLEASE! these are the type of answers im looking for!

with that being said why when i drive it on a extreme street tune for stock injectors it smokes less and runs cooler then a MILD street tune taillored for 205/100's?

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and assume that has more to do with needing more supporting mods, like a turbo, head work, cam, etc...... in order to get the most out of that fuel that is now being "asked for by the custom tune" or however you want to put it, because that tune has been set to get the most out of your injectors......with that extreme street, the truck still "thinks" it has stock injectors and isn't allowing for more fuel even though its capable, hence why there isn't as much smoke......make sense?

 

[GreenMachine]

Precisely what I was getting at Julian. Im just using these numbers as an example, this is in no way a real world comparison LOL. Lets just say at 1400rpm the ecm is commanding 1900ms of pw, thats 1900ms on a stock nozzle injector. Now add a 100% nozzle and stroked body into the mix and that 1900ms of pw is going to be emptying A LOT more fuel.

Ill leave someone who is far more knowledgeable with tuning than me to comment.

And with that I can insert foot in mouth. Disregard my earlier comment. Lol

 

[mgeistman]

to twinturbostroker: so then with a factory flash and a fooler box for a stock truck it should be less smokey and hot, if im reading what you wrote correctly. bc what you just were saying is opposite of what greg is saying..........?

 

[mgeistman]

bc what your saying is exzactly what im looking for and your basicly agreeing with me. LOL