Stacking sct and?????

mgeistman · Jun 2, 2012

Nate, do you know if a cts with on the fly canned tunes will communacate with the tcm?

mgeistman · Jun 2, 2012

ive also been looking into the TS MP-8 bc it seems to not communicate with the TCM eather, anyone know anything about this one?

Jhaddox · Jun 2, 2012

IIRC the mp8 isn't adjustable? Not positive on that though

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mgeistman · Jun 2, 2012

I found a little more info on the mp-8 and don't like it. I ordered a hypermax Mach 7.

windrunner408 · Jun 2, 2012

Yea Matt sorry I dont know more man about the Evolution CTS. Best of luck with the Hypermax Mach 7, I hope it does what you are looking for.

Lubbockguy1979 · Jun 3, 2012

mgeistman said:
Hypertext mach 7 does and will not communicate to the TCM. Well that's what a tech named Ron at hypertec told me. I'm going to talk to bill at PHP about it sense he seems to be the man that would know how there accually doing it so I'll know how unsafe it is timing wise.

What I was gettin at is what dave said. Shift on the fly usually means a glorified 10k resistor mod. Meaning the computer is only altered by altering sensor reading such as tempratues and pressure. The tuning is based on the altered readings on stock trucks so with your mods you gamble on if the parameters that are altered will work. It could be slower, not run as well, blow up or be perfect.

bad12jr · Jun 3, 2012

mgeistman said:
the main thing im trying to get away from is always retuning the tranny every time i want a different power level. if the sct had a choice of tuning the engine, tuning the tranny, or both at the same time like it does i would not even thought of doing this. i HATE haveing to force a relearn a couple of days before i want to pull my boat on a fishing trip, or go to the track, ect..

Sorry. You said that. I read it a couple days ago and forgot. My bad. Can you run a pcs controller with the 5r100? That could be another option. Would save tuning time not writing the tranny tune as well.

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mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

bad12jr said:
Sorry. You said that. I read it a couple days ago and forgot. My bad. Can you run a pcs controller with the 5r100? That could be another option. Would save tuning time not writing the tranny tune as well.

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no pcs does not support the 5r110, i wish it did that would be the ldeal thing instead trying to stack tuners, im gonna see if i can do what they say cant be done, i will be sure to post my results wither im right or wrong.

mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

Lubbockguy1979 said:
What I was gettin at is what dave said. Shift on the fly usually means a glorified 10k resistor mod. Meaning the computer is only altered by altering sensor reading such as tempratues and pressure. The tuning is based on the altered readings on stock trucks so with your mods you gamble on if the parameters that are altered will work. It could be slower, not run as well, blow up or be perfect.

well i see what you mean, and i agree, but the only reason i feel like this will work bc my truck runs great even without a tune on it, also runs great with a tune tailord for a pmax and stock injectors so??????????............. i will let yall know how it pans out.

mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

windrunner408 said:
Yea Matt sorry I dont know more man about the Evolution CTS. Best of luck with the Hypermax Mach 7, I hope it does what you are looking for.

thanks Nate! i know this is completly insane lol, but i have to hook it up and run it to get the facts.

Jhaddox · Jun 3, 2012

mgeistman said:
no pcs does not support the 5r110, i wish it did that would be the ldeal thing instead trying to stack tuners, im gonna see if i can do what they say cant be done, i will be sure to post my results wither im right or wrong.

PCS will work with a 5r...i know of at least one shop that currently has a PCS'd 5r

mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

Jhaddox said:
PCS will work with a 5r...i know of at least one shop that currently has a PCS'd 5r

im sorry, your right destroked is the only person that carries them. i had to go and read that over again. my bad:doh:

mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

What is the reason we can't use that SCT/superchips five position chip again?

mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

It says it works on 04's?? Doesn't seem right must be a typo

Dave · Jun 3, 2012

mgeistman said:
What is the reason we can't use that SCT/superchips five position chip again?

Thats for the 7.3 PCM's We dont have the port for it

Zmann · Jun 3, 2012

I personally don't see a relearn issue when I swap between custom tunes
say SRL and Matt's Tow tune ,, I don't return to stock when doing that ,,

I do feel the relearn any time I do go to stock and then load a tune ,, like if I were updating the SCT or trying another vendors tunes ( I just play it safe when swapping between vendors and Go back to stock)

I absolutely Loved My edge juice with attitude and switching on the fly ,, plus in the deep menus you could adjust all kinds of stuff and I know you could add fuel because it could be made to smoke profusely.. unfortunately it now sits in a drawer.

I like this topic good job .. and maybe we will all need on the fly tuners in the future ?

did u see the thread pulled over and plugged into the OBD port to check for programing??

mgeistman · Jun 3, 2012

Zmann said:
I personally don't see a relearn issue when I swap between custom tunes
say SRL and Matt's Tow tune ,, I don't return to stock when doing that ,,

I do feel the relearn any time I do go to stock and then load a tune ,, like if I were updating the SCT or trying another vendors tunes ( I just play it safe when swapping between vendors and Go back to stock)

I absolutely Loved My edge juice with attitude and switching on the fly ,, plus in the deep menus you could adjust all kinds of stuff and I know you could add fuel because it could be made to smoke profusely.. unfortunately it now sits in a drawer.

I like this topic good job .. and maybe we will all need on the fly tuners in the future ?

did u see the thread pulled over and plugged into the OBD port to check for programing??