6.0.4 revisited

Mdub707 · Sep 10, 2012

Yeah I wasn't clear on what he was asking for either... for intake stuff, yeah aluminum is fine. For up-pipes, no way.

TheReelMuhcoy · Sep 10, 2012

Sorry guys, yeah talking about intake piping here. I am going to make my life easy and just use the 6.4 manifolds and stock 6.4 up pipes for now. I put together everything I will need for intake pipes including vband assembled boots pipes etc. comes to about $388 about $88 over my guesstimate, not bad.

TheReelMuhcoy · Sep 14, 2012

*UPDATE*

Several weeks ago I spoke to Chad from Trusted about using the dual alt setup for relocating the alternator. He gave the best description he could for the setup without giving out all of his secrets. So today I picked up the missing bolts for the dual alternator kit that I picked up from NCSTROKER, the bolts ran about $20 from Fastenal. I started to put everything in, after getting in and finally SEEING what Chad did the best he could do to describe, things matched up to his description.

I am now at the point of determining the length of belt that is needed. I suppose cutting the original belt releasing tension and marking the original belt is the best way to get the new belt length, however with all the other guys out there running this setup I have not found any belt lengths mentioned. As of now my best guess is 108"-110". If anyone can confirm that for me I would be very greatful :bowfast:. I was only able to pick up 100" 119" and 121" belts tonight. Tomorrow I will try another auto parts shop and see if they have a broader selection.

ncstroker · Sep 15, 2012

Glad that worked for you bud

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Wayne · Sep 15, 2012

Route a piece of clothes line string, small rope, or whatever that's not stretchy the way you want your belt to go, then measure it. I recommend that the tensioner be at 75% of Max tension when you measure.

TheReelMuhcoy · Sep 15, 2012

Wayne, good idea. This morning I used some low voltage wiring I had laying around, came up with 108". Now it's just a matter of extending the connectors to the lower alternator.

Babby steps, but at least it's progress.

windrunner408 · Sep 15, 2012

Hey can you change the second or third option (or even add a fourth option) in the poll to something like "the juice isn't worth the sqeeze" or something?? I don't mind "wasting" my brain cells monitoring the progress and thinking/talking about doing this. I'm just not confident that it will be worth doing from a performance aspect if it even works at all. I hope I am wrong and as always, I wish you the best of success with this and hope it does work but I just think that if I voted for the third option it wouldn't actually capture what my true feelings are about this project. Hope this makes sense and keep up the good work. I'm excited for the results (good or bad).

Wayne · Sep 15, 2012

Yeah, and what if my truck already had 6.4l compounds?

TheReelMuhcoy · Sep 15, 2012

I'm not sure how to change it... Anyone else know how?

windrunner408 · Sep 15, 2012

No worries man. The project is WAY more important than the poll anyways. I still like learning about different ways to do things. I admire the courage to tackle such a challenge in the first place. I think just getting the turbos to work will be a feat in and of itself and will be something to brag about. Perhaps if it nothing else, it will be a stepping stone to putting upgraded 6.4 compounds on the truck (like the ones from Elite or something) (I dont know if they are VGT controlled or not either) as that would definitely give some increased performance I would think.

Wayne · Sep 15, 2012

You know, if this does turn out to be a success, you could just manufacture a pedistal with turbo drains, and something to control the VVT setup, and IC pipes to offer as a kit to anyone who wants a bolt-in copy of what you have. I imagine there wouldn't be too much beyond that you would need to buy elsewhere. Just include a list of part numbers, and quantities of anything else you'd need. Then, most of the performance upgrades would just be sourced to 6.4 parts, such as tow-power compounds.

bigaF250 · Sep 16, 2012

Just a question, but what would it take to swap the 6.4 common rail setup to the 6.0 or 7.3. I know they already have a common rail conversion for the 7.3 but could it be done on more of a budget if you could go with 6.4 parts? Because don't the 6.0 and 6.4 heads swap? Basically drop in as far as injectors go right? And if you can manipulate the computer in the truck to run the 6.4 turbo's, could it not be done to run the common rail system? Just curious

SSpeeDEMONSS · Sep 16, 2012

At that point why not just buy a 6.4?

Garrett

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windrunner408 · Sep 16, 2012

bigaF250 said:
Just a question, but what would it take to swap the 6.4 common rail setup to the 6.0 or 7.3. I know they already have a common rail conversion for the 7.3 but could it be done on more of a budget if you could go with 6.4 parts? Because don't the 6.0 and 6.4 heads swap? Basically drop in as far as injectors go right? And if you can manipulate the computer in the truck to run the 6.4 turbo's, could it not be done to run the common rail system? Just curious

The 6.4 heads DO NOT just swap over to the 6.0. They have larger diameter head bolts as well as cooling jackets don't match up. Even if you could just swap the top of a 6.4 over to a 6.0, you would still need all of the 6.4 electronics to run the motor. I agree with what is written below, just get a 6.4 motor and do the conversion. JMO of course.

SSpeeDEMONSS said:
At that point why not just buy a 6.4?

I agree.

Hotrodtractor · Sep 17, 2012

I updated the poll options for you guys. I think this is a cool endeavor - but in the end I don't think its worth all the effort. But I wish you the best of luck in making it work for you!

Hotrodtractor · Sep 17, 2012

bigaF250 said:
Just a question, but what would it take to swap the 6.4 common rail setup to the 6.0 or 7.3. I know they already have a common rail conversion for the 7.3 but could it be done on more of a budget if you could go with 6.4 parts? Because don't the 6.0 and 6.4 heads swap? Basically drop in as far as injectors go right? And if you can manipulate the computer in the truck to run the 6.4 turbo's, could it not be done to run the common rail system? Just curious

The current publicly shown CR 7.3 conversion already uses 6.4 parts - so I'm not sure how it could be done on more of a smaller budget other than by a lot more DIY fabrication to make things work together.

windrunner408 · Sep 17, 2012

Hotrodtractor said:
I updated the poll options for you guys. I think this is a cool endeavor - but in the end I don't think its worth all the effort. But I wish you the best of luck in making it work for you!

Thank you. I voted of course. LOL And I agree with ^^^^This as well.

Hotrodtractor · Sep 17, 2012

windrunner408 said:
Thank you. I voted of course. LOL And I agree with ^^^^This as well.

I have magic powers and can change things if you truly desire.

TheReelMuhcoy · Sep 17, 2012

Thanks for the poll revision Hotrod! And thanks to all you guys for the support. When the build itscomplete and I have some results I will create another thread and we will have another poll based on proven data. I am very excited!

As for now I finally got the correct sized main belt.