Charles
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So, you are telling me Jody is a liar? That chunk of text I just cut and pasted from an email conversion I had with him. So, you've just called him a liar about his own products. I need to know the truth. . .please enlighten me.
Yes. Although too ignorant to know better may be more apt a description at this point.
Although I have never checked the actual values due to this having not come up in a while, I just took the time in the past few minutes to run the ACTUAL output timing based directly on the programming. I once had a conversation with Jody years and years ago where I explained in excrusiating detail the appropriate way to both measure and compare timing on these trucks. In this conversation I flat out told him that at the time I was running 28 degrees MAX. He looked at me like I was dumb. I could tell the thought of 28 degrees looked ALIEN to the man, and immediately knew he was out of it. Period.
Whatever..... moving on....
I then have a few different people in the course of discussions at later points state in direct terms that Jody runs less timing than me. Whatever that means. All the while bearing in mind that everybody's sh*t is coming all apart and sounds like hammered ass 24-7 and mine doesn't.....
Well, the catch-all excuse has always been.... well, have you SEEN his programming? And obviously my answer, never having f'ed with his sh*t is no. At which point the dim-witted masses smugly roll their eyes and continue telling themselves I must be a moron then.
Well, a while back I happened to pull the program off my 550 computer that Jody flashed to it's memory himself. Bare in mind that the man flashed this program to MY computer, while standing face to face with me. We could only assume that if ANYTHING, what he gave me would be conservatively timed, given our opposing views on the very subject of timing.
FACTS:
The EXACT program I was running the day I said I was running 28* max has a MAXIMUM base timing value of 8.5* @ 3000rpm.
The program taken from my 550 has a MAXIMUM base timing value of 12* @ 3000rpm.
Right off the bat Jody's tow program from my 550 is running another 3.5 degrees at 3000rpm.
But it gets better folks. The EOT modifier table I've always SCREAMED at you people? Well, in my program it is set to 1. Period. Everywhere, just good old 1. This is 1ms of offset. At 3000rpm this equates to 18* of advance. Coupled with the 8.5 degree base timing, this puts me at 26.5* of timing.
Now in Jody's file from my 550? At an engine oil temp between 0 and 200*F and 3000psi, we are looking at an injection offset value of 1.418ms. This equates to an advance value of 25.52 degrees. Pair that with the 12* base advance and you're looking at 37.5 degrees of advance at 3000rpm.
As a safety, I had the maximum allowable timing parameter set to 28. Looking at the file from my 550, Jody had it set to 135 degrees maximum allowable advance. Not going to stop anything.
This was a single, towing file. Having briefly looked at some others I know for a fact that this one was tame in comparison.
My 550 was running over 40 degrees of advance at rpm values greater than 3000.
Facts.
It cannot be more objective. I did not choose unrealistic values. That's as real-life as it gets. Full fuel, 3000rpm. Even at half MFD, the timing would have still be upward of 35 degrees. It is what it is. I to this day still fail to understand the confusion on this subject.
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