H-11s vs ARP's

[jdgleason]

Wayne elite teach you to copy in paste.. kinda like there intake that's half of dougs design.... You posted a chart thay shows a nf 9/16 grade 8 should be 186.... Grade 8 is only 150000psi tension stength... That makes sense

As stated the table shows engineering standard is 75% of a bolts yield across the board. So, yes, that does make sense and is relevant to clamping force in relation to tensile strength, tq spec, and deflection.

And was your best stab at elite a ported intake manifold? Cuz if so ***k me Doug is god of every manifold made. You an only do so much to a stock manifold. That's why elite has the tunnel ram manifold like on Aaron's race truck. Aaaaaaannnnddd it's the only one on the market.

Why don't you run along and play with your Legos since you can't seem to contribute anything factual or positive here.

 

[Wayne]

Cunningham uses what bolts you order Wayne. You can request ARP, h11's, custom age and many others as well. If his rods require 80-90w gear oil then use that. Just cause one person uses the same part and it says to use something different doesn't mean you should not follow the instructions for your parts.

Didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying for Ivan. Good info to consider anyway.

 

[Extended Power]

Ivan: Cunningham uses A-1 for bolts, and Elite's last batch of Cunningham rods came with the Detroit Diesel lube I listed above... something to keep in mind.

When I spoke to Jim, he was CRAZY about making sure I used only the 80W90 gear lube...

He even threw in another reminder:

 

[Dzchey21]

So maybe there is a little something to the initial clamping force of arps as they have about 6000 psi more clamping force but a very low bolt load


Read this its a very good explination.


http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1835

 

[Wayne]

When I spoke to Jim, he was CRAZY about making sure I used only the 80W90 gear lube...

He even threw in another reminder:

:thumbsup: right on man. sounds like you got it more than covered :jammin:

 

[oneturboforme]

I know this wayne but my point is it has to be higher then that I mean i can calc it if you want to send me the specs of it.... And when have I pushed mpd parts other then my single kit review......

 

[Dzchey21]

I know this wayne but my point is it has to be higher then that I mean i can calc it if you want to send me the specs of it.... And when have I pushed mpd parts other then my single kit review......

Keep it on track of the bolt conversation please.


This goes for everyone

 

[bigrpowr]

Wayne elite teach you to copy in paste.. kinda like there intake that's half of dougs design....

thats a pretty bold statement. please expand since you seem to know so much, considering nobody had one of dougs manifolds to possibly copy. please start a new thread as not to derail this one.

 

[oneturboforme]

Thanks for that link dustin...... 6000 more clamping force.....

 

[oneturboforme]

thats a pretty bold statement. please expand since you seem to know so much, considering nobody had one of dougs manifolds to possibly copy. please start a new thread as not to derail this one.

Pm me if you want to discuss thus so we don't derail

 

[bigrpowr]

Pm me if you want to discuss thus so we don't derail

nevermind, ill start a thread, please join in, as i want your words to be public.

 

[jdgleason]

Thanks for that link dustin...... 6000 more clamping force.....

Oops you missed te other half of that sentence. I gotcha bud it was "but a very low bolt load".

Pm me if you want to discuss thus so we don't derail

He suggested you start a new thread to enlighten us. I second that as I don't agree with your statement but am eager to hear what you have to say. Pm me a link to that new thread when she gets up and Rollin if ya don't mind.

 

[White_monster]

Well since nobody seems too look any info up I'll post it up. Arp changed their torque specs June 1 2011. Here's the 2 sets of instructions.

First gen instructions

Second gen instructions

I'm sure that 50ftlb reduction is gonna drop clamping force.

 

[bigrpowr]

here you go shane.

http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12267

 

[Dzchey21]

i guarantee that lower toque number will lower clamping force but decrease load on the bolt, which is probably a good thing for reusability, 80% load might be enough to make the bolt a 1 time use only.

So the question would be what does craigs truck have torqued too?

 

[oneturboforme]

White monster... I know I had this same deal when I was installing mine.. most clear answer I got from.a arp rep was the lube changed.... Not sure if he wad correct or not.... He told me follow your kits instructions

 

[forcefed6.4ford]

Charge your phone Shane

 

[Extended Power]

Holy hell....325ft #'s.....that's crazy!
My CAT 1/2" drive torque wrench only goes up to 250...
Wow.

 

[Dzchey21]

i could see lube changing the torque value as well maybe the new lube gives a greater torque

There was a great deal on horse power TV awhile back about arp lube vs other brands of lube, they showed "peanut butter" which is what top fuel teams use because it is the closest on the first torque reading, after that the bolt will actually over torque and eventually break if you get too nuts with it, ill see if i can dig up a video of it

take in to consideration that this is paid for by arp...

http://youtu.be/6-XXVk_vwKw

 

[BFT]

peanut butter with a slight aroma of body odorLOL

We're the holes where the studs go in, cleaned out?