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TooMuch03

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I've been around since about 2004-ish. I've worked with people as a customer, a friend, part of a race team, as a spectator and as a business... Industrial has NEVER had a good track record. 238 hybrids and p-pumps were the first to bring quality issues to light. I've lost count of the horror stories. Having been around for awhile, I've made great connections with some of, IMO, the best in the business when it comes to injectors. Hell, a close friend of mine has pioneered more HEUI performance as just a hobbyist than most of the people building injectors full time. I trust what we have discussed over the course of the last 9 years to be 100% accurate and never lacking in detail. Through their experiences and testing I have had the privilege to be a part of it. I've learned tons and I'm thankful for every opportunity I have had to do so. Do I flow injectors? Nope. Neither do you. Should I flow injectors since I'm not an injector builder? Nope. Should I have to flow injectors to know a good company from a bad company based off facts and experiences? Nope. Have you based your entire arguments off of a poor personal choice in choosing a injector builder? Yup. Could everything you have been crying about been avoided with some research? Meh, depends. You don't seem very receptive to much other than price and doing the opposite of common, so it's hard to say. In the end, I feel bad for you that you can't accept people who make purchases using facts rather than emotions or opinions. It certainly doesn't help you to attack those people for being consciences in their choices by calling them nut swingers. Either way, we will just have to agree to disagree on injector quality control, whose got their A game going on and who doesn't, and who people should send their money to and who shouldn't. I'm fairly confident most people here would agree that what people have asked for in a shop is nothing unreasonable. It certainly would save some heartache and frustration I know that.

That is true, we will have to agree to disagree on a lot of things. Unfortunately, much of your assessment of me is very wrong. In hindsight, I can see that purchasing injectors from Industrial was not the best decision, but I was told by quite a few people that it was a good place to get them from. Live and learn. And learn I have, that is why every injector that goes in my truck, will be flowed by me, regardless of who builds them. Your assumption that I am motivated by price is not even remotely true (I mean honestly, I bought Industrial Injectors $$$). As I have told you before, value, not price, plays a role in my purchases. I realize this may be a foreign concept to you. You are right, I prefer to do what is not common. I am not sure why you think that is a bad thing. Furthermore, I don't know where you get this idea that I make purchases using opinions and emotions, especially since you are the one advocating only purchasing parts from big name shops. I try to keep an open mind and gather as much real information before buying, whether it is from a big name shop halfway across the country or a little shop just down the road. It is not easy, with all the opinions that people thrust down my throat on these various forums. It saddens me that the difference between sharing your experiences and nutswinging still eludes you, I have tried so hard. Oh well, like you said, agree to disagree.
 

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That's one good thing about the Internet, what you say will be there for ever and open to as many eyes as possible. I hate that a sponsor and you got caught up in labeling people something they are not, because they make good consciences decision before making purchases. Pretty sad but as you said, live and learn. I think a little further reading would *really* help you and mindrunner out. You two are the only to see this thread, your way... Wen a majority feels one way, you have to ask yourself, is it them or me. Either way, agree to disagree. Glad that this thread shed some light on the unfortunate practices of some business'. Hopefully it will help members in the end. I mean, that's all were here for really. Well and to have fun lol

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See, the cool thing about an honest flow sheet, no matter what, if the injector doesn't work when installed in the customers truck, you know it's a preexisting issue, or improper installation. It helps us to cut down unnecessary injector claims, and we know every set of injectors that leaves our shop is 100% spot on. Not just some junk 03 core that passed a buzz test, etc.

It's the same as other brands being supported and people getting but hurt and throwing the but swinger comment out.

Go ahead call me a nut swinger, your exact right.

Swinging in the nuts of quality!

Jared there was a time before you worked at RCD where there injector builds were worse than horse****.

Now I have to say things have greatly improved over there though
 

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Jared there was a time before you worked at RCD where there injector builds were worse than horse****.

Now I have to say things have greatly improved over there though

it was the added technical expertise of jared that really turned the place around. LOL
 

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mods just delete this worthless thread. What the hell is going on with this forum lately. There is so many new people on here coming in and talking like they know what they are doing. its almost painful to get on here anymore. One of the guys in this thread, not gonna waste my time to look for a name needs to be put in his place. Guys, I don't care how much you think you know, just stop acting like you do because most of you are clueless. Show some respect to the guys that worked hard to get this industry where it is and keep your mouth shut. read, if you have a question then ask. I saw a reference to making your own nozzles being easy, are you kidding me right now. I didn't realize anyone could just go in there garage and edm or extrude hone nozzles. they are very precise and technically have more to do with a balanced set of injectors than the internals themselves. Fact is I Learned all this the hard way along with many other guys on here. It has cost me tons of money and most the hours of my life so far. keyboard racers, knock your **** off. sorry for the derail but its getting out of hand.
 

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mods just delete this worthless thread. What the hell is going on with this forum lately. There is so many new people on here coming in and talking like they know what they are doing. its almost painful to get on here anymore. One of the guys in this thread, not gonna waste my time to look for a name needs to be put in his place. Guys, I don't care how much you think you know, just stop acting like you do because most of you are clueless. Show some respect to the guys that worked hard to get this industry where it is and keep your mouth shut. read, if you have a question then ask. I saw a reference to making your own nozzles being easy, are you kidding me right now. I didn't realize anyone could just go in there garage and edm or extrude hone nozzles. they are very precise and technically have more to do with a balanced set of injectors than the internals themselves. Fact is I Learned all this the h ard way along with many other guys on here. It has cost me tons of money and most the hours of my life so far. keyboard racers, knock your **** off. sorry for the derail but its getting out of hand.

AMEN. So much win in this ^^^

Just because you have a dad, brother, cousin, friend, pet gerbil, etc., that knows certain things, doesn't automatically make you "king mechanic". Unless you have personal experience with the issue at hand, there really shouldn't be much incentive to post.

Obviously this doesn't apply to people that are honestly asking questions about a problem with their pickup, etc. But it should to just about every other situation.
 
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mods just delete this worthless thread. What the hell is going on with this forum lately. There is so many new people on here coming in and talking like they know what they are doing. its almost painful to get on here anymore. One of the guys in this thread, not gonna waste my time to look for a name needs to be put in his place. Guys, I don't care how much you think you know, just stop acting like you do because most of you are clueless. Show some respect to the guys that worked hard to get this industry where it is and keep your mouth shut. read, if you have a question then ask. I saw a reference to making your own nozzles being easy, are you kidding me right now. I didn't realize anyone could just go in there garage and edm or extrude hone nozzles. they are very precise and technically have more to do with a balanced set of injectors than the internals themselves. Fact is I Learned all this the hard way along with many other guys on here. It has cost me tons of money and most the hours of my life so far. keyboard racers, knock your **** off. sorry for the derail but its getting out of hand.

So much win in this post
 

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mods just delete this worthless thread. What the hell is going on with this forum lately. There is so many new people on here coming in and talking like they know what they are doing. its almost painful to get on here anymore. One of the guys in this thread, not gonna waste my time to look for a name needs to be put in his place. Guys, I don't care how much you think you know, just stop acting like you do because most of you are clueless. Show some respect to the guys that worked hard to get this industry where it is and keep your mouth shut. read, if you have a question then ask. I saw a reference to making your own nozzles being easy, are you kidding me right now. I didn't realize anyone could just go in there garage and edm or extrude hone nozzles. they are very precise and technically have more to do with a balanced set of injectors than the internals themselves. Fact is I Learned all this the hard way along with many other guys on here. It has cost me tons of money and most the hours of my life so far. keyboard racers, knock your **** off. sorry for the derail but its getting out of hand.

I love when you get a little fired up lol


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