Mad stage 3 hits 605 rwhp with 190/100

MINK · Jun 18, 2012

Dynos never lie, right.

Trucks apear to be making power, why not get them to the track and back it up - just that much more for your argument.

faster6.0 · Jun 18, 2012

LOL c'mon Dustin you know how that goes. There will be track
Times. Mark my words. these trucks were not all on the same Day either. These are the same numbers predicted by Adrian that his turbos would
Be capable of producing, and he has more than come through thus far. There is always more testing and beating to do on them and the beatings will continue LOL. Keep your eyes peeled for the next setup.

madpowerstroke · Jun 18, 2012

I have never called anyone haters that want track times. To be honest with everyone to me I don't care either way track or dyno, it all comes down to the person that buys the turbo, does that person think they got their money worth, do they like the way the way the truck drives and acts. I have done all this to give a soild base for the 6.0 powerstrokes to be built from. What people want to do with their trucks after they get the turbos is on them. I provide dyno numbers just to give an idea of what these turbos can do, and to me is the safiest way to get a number without breaking.
In my opinion if Nate would have taken his truck down the track, he may have broke the tranny on his truck. Also some may have not realized that I have only made these turbos for 6 months now, track times will come just from someone buying and trying their truck down the track.
I do know that the stage 3 would from what I have seen a great pulling turbo, and track turbo. It takes a little rpm brake spool before it lights and when it does hang on things are going to get very nasty. As far as street the stage 3 and the others I plan on building are going to need some tuning to get the turbo to be smooth from idle to 1800 rpm. What I mean is that the vanes need closed more for the that range so boost is up high enough for good street manners.
As far as me and my truck, I plan on getting a tranny and getting stage 5 built for my truck, dyno, track, and street, to show what I have built, I'm also in search for the over 700rwhp on fuel only with 190/150 injectors with a single VGT turbo. According to the numbers I ran on the set up it will bust the 700 mark. I just wanted to express my opinion and my take on all this.

Thanks :ford:

UpstateDieselGuy · Jun 18, 2012

I respect the call for track times, but in all honesty, I want to know how they are on the street, towing, etc. I have never really been concerned or interested in track times. It is just another way to measure performance. I have a buddy that is big with 12V's and his one truck that he used to pull is nasty and made good power, but wouldn't do well on a track as it is not setup for it.

Chris

Spindrift · Jun 18, 2012

:whs:

01PSD · Jun 18, 2012

stroke of luck said:
That's so retarded that you nut swingers think that asking for track times is "hating." Since a request for track times comes up in every MTW thread, there are obviously potential customers that want more information on how the turbo actually puts power to the ground. Big dyno numbers are cool but they don't mean much if it can't get the truck down the track faster. Not one person has said anything negative about these turbos or Adrian. They want to know what matters...ho much faster does it make the truck? So instead of calling the potential customers or generally interested in how the turbo does racing (me)...just get some times or at least make plans for it...

Same thing happened to me in the other thread. I wasn't hating, just like track times better than dyno numbers.

TooMuch03 · Jun 18, 2012

UpstateDieselGuy said:
I respect the call for track times, but in all honesty, I want to know how they are on the street, towing, etc. I have never really been concerned or interested in track times. It is just another way to measure performance. I have a buddy that is big with 12V's and his one truck that he used to pull is nasty and made good power, but wouldn't do well on a track as it is not setup for it.

Chris

This is a valid point, as the majority of diesel owners will not ever take their trucks to the track, but it is a very good indicator of the actual power that gets to the ground, particularly the trap speed. The last time I ran my truck, even with a crappy launch, my trap speeds were very consistent, with 1 mph even if the ETs were over 2 seconds apart.

The potential customers want to see track times to back up these dyno numbers. I for one, do not think this is too much to ask, and I hope it is only a matter of time until we see those.

madpowerstroke · Jun 19, 2012

As more turbos make it out, guys that hit the track will give you those times. I myself will be building my truck to handle track with the big stage turbos to give numbers. Hell I might just get a driver, not that I can't handle the track, but I would like to get the best times. I also need rules for the track, when I build the MAD truck to hit over 700 rwhp, I might get kick off the track for not having right equipment. I can't say how fast I will have truck ready for track, I will need a tranny put in to handle the power and torque.

JAP · Jun 19, 2012

Not much skill is needed. You'll be able to see the horsepower through the MPH, and unless you're just terrible at knowing your truck and getting it down the track, you should be within 1mph or so pretty easily.

Marty · Jun 19, 2012

I dynoed 509 HP and then ran 110 mph @ 7400 lbs. Do you think the dyno was right? In this case the dyno was low, but it shows the margin for error on a given setup.

Claiming to have broken records is kind of rude to other vendors when you only have half of the equasion, in fact you have the less credible part of the equasion advertised. Once again, not hating, just saying. I work on a ton of 6.0s, there needs to be more aftermarket support that makes power and makes these daily driveable.

the chad · Jun 19, 2012

When my tranny gets built, I will def be hitting the track in my truck. I would also like to point out that probably 75% of the people who are into PSA, PSN, and PO probably never will and have no interest in the track. These numbers are impressive imo, and bills dyno has been proven to be fairly accurate. But in the meantime, I think we need to get them in more peoples hands, and let people see the improvements in a DD setup. Track times will be soon, hell the first stage three just got dynod, it wont be long.

Marty · Jun 19, 2012

You are still missing the point. The track is to support the claim. It has nothing to do with what the majority of people want.

If a big HP number is all you want, go find a guy to crank up the correction factor on your local dyno and then you'll have it.

Dustball8504 · Jun 19, 2012

Marty said:
I dynoed 509 HP and then ran 110 mph @ 7400 lbs. Do you think the dyno was right? In this case the dyno was low, but it shows the margin for error on a given setup.

Claiming to have broken records is kind of rude to other vendors when you only have half of the equasion, in fact you have the less credible part of the equasion advertised. Once again, not hating, just saying. I work on a ton of 6.0s, there needs to be more aftermarket support that makes power and makes these daily driveable.

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faster6.0 · Jun 19, 2012

I dont see anyone else making north of 600 with 190s, or 500 with stock nozzles, or 500 with a powermax and stock nozzles. I think its awesome what Adrians turbos are doing and my biggest ? is what will the stage 4 do now.

Hotrodtractor · Jun 19, 2012

Dozers Diesel said:
I dont see anyone else making north of 600 with 190s, or 500 with stock nozzles, or 500 with a powermax and stock nozzles. I think its awesome what Adrians turbos are doing and my biggest ? is what will the stage 4 do now.

And all anyone is asking for is support for that 600hp dyno run. You have one truck on one dyno on one day that did that. Now go to another dyno, go to the track, etc... to get some support for your sample size of one. That is all anyone is asking for.

extreme3807 · Jun 19, 2012

the chad said:
When my tranny gets built, I will def be hitting the track in my truck. I would also like to point out that probably 75% of the people who are into PSA, PSN, and PO probably never will and have no interest in the track. These numbers are impressive imo, and bills dyno has been proven to be fairly accurate. But in the meantime, I think we need to get them in more peoples hands, and let people see the improvements in a DD setup. Track times will be soon, hell the first stage three just got dynod, it wont be long.

Get that turtle to the track already

Breaking Habits · Jun 19, 2012

Dozers Diesel said:
I dont see anyone else making north of 600 with 190s, or 500 with stock nozzles, or 500 with a powermax and stock nozzles. I think its awesome what Adrians turbos are doing and my biggest ? is what will the stage 4 do now.

205s + 68mm CAST Charger Netted 642 on a dialed in superflow.. Brandon hasnt ran the truck yet, but its a legit number none the less.

I've got 4 trucks right now getting Batmo68's with 205s on 2 and 225's on the other 2.. we'll see how they do

Your guys 70mm should be killer.

faster6.0 · Jun 19, 2012

Let us know how they do. We will also have boost/BP numbers to compare shortly as well, perhaps you should do the same on the rcd 68 so we can show a fair comparison. Also the MTW billet 68 and 190s was dynoed on a de fueled tune written for a stock turbo....i see much more than 600 out of the 190/68 combo, without bad temps or too much smoke.
should have a stage 3 or 4 ready for Erics with the hybrids.

windrunner408 · Jun 19, 2012

That is a NICE number for sure Jared.

madpowerstroke · Jun 19, 2012

Marty said:
I dynoed 509 HP and then ran 110 mph @ 7400 lbs. Do you think the dyno was right? In this case the dyno was low, but it shows the margin for error on a given setup.

Claiming to have broken records is kind of rude to other vendors when you only have half of the equasion, in fact you have the less credible part of the equasion advertised. Once again, not hating, just saying. I work on a ton of 6.0s, there needs to be more aftermarket support that makes power and makes these daily driveable.

Hotrodtractor said:
And all anyone is asking for is support for that 600hp dyno run. You have one truck on one dyno on one day that did that. Now go to another dyno, go to the track, etc... to get some support for your sample size of one. That is all anyone is asking for.

First of all I'm not going to get into a pissing match, I wasn't trying to being rude either. I do hold the hightest number for certain injectors, it's not a claim it' a fact, tell me, or show me anyone else that has done the same. The only reason I mention it is that it seems some want to push off the hard work I have done as a fluke, and down play it. Down playing or whatever some want to say about my efforts are only going to last so long, meaning the more turbos I sell the more numbers and performance will come out and it won't be able to ignore it. Once I get things going and have pullers and drag trucks running my turbos, unless you run one one you won't be able to get the same performance., and as far as rude goes I think that some treat me that way, and if I get treated that way I will come back that way.
Now as far as one truck BS let me say this, I event was starting to go down hill for me, two trucks that were supposed to be there couldn't, than the truck that the stage 3 was going on didn't make it. I decided to try to make the event positive for me by building a stage 2 on the back on the tail gate of the truck we were putting the stage 3 on. I also rebuilt a stage 1 to get ready for another truck. The decidition was made right then, the tuning used for the stage 2 and 3 are just regular tunes written for defueling 190 with stock turbo. If we would have had some tunes written for 190 with more fuel added the horsepower numbers would have been different. I only built one stage 3 and is a prototype, I wanted to see what it did before I start building more.
Alittle about myself, I'm a one man show, I work out of my garage at home, reseached and developed my own turbos, put my own money into them, never asked for any backing from anyone, so if I'm stepping on some of diesel shop toes, that have money then sorry. It is not like me to stay silent, and will give respect as it is given to me. I will continue to do what I do and will not go away, I let my turbos do the talking and they will continue.