Need help with Fuel system

windrunner408 · Jan 29, 2012

Got ya. Thanks for the link man.

genuineford · Jan 29, 2012

I ran a fuelab by itself on my 7.3 with no issues.

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Jan 29, 2012

vanderchevy18 said:
Irate's fuel system does remove air.

????? Not last time I checked

vanderchevy18 · Jan 30, 2012

That's kinda the whole point of a regulated return. You posted his filter setup only. Just 1 piece of his fuel system.

SSpeeDEMONSS · Jan 30, 2012

I built my own fuel system a few years ago. Airdog 150 feeding the front and rear of the heads. Only thing stock is the tank. If I was going to keep the truck it would get a sump, a fuelab, and a regulator. Though it worked great and no problems with the airdog.

Garrett

Probably getting paid at work to post this from my D1

MorganY · Jan 30, 2012

strokin6L said:
and some more. This is all i have of my setup.

you make some cool sh*t bud..exh back pressure fittings, dual pumps, pretty cool, I haven't seen that before!

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Jan 30, 2012

vanderchevy18 said:
That's kinda the whole point of a regulated return. You posted his filter setup only. Just 1 piece of his fuel system.

So your telling me in the regulator is where your Air seperation is? Im really confused.

vanderchevy18 · Jan 30, 2012

I can tell. LOL j/k Yes. The return is what gets rid of the air back to the tank.

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Jan 30, 2012

LOLLOLSo where does the air go once in the regulator? I think you should do some more reaserch maybe even give jake a call and ask him if his kit removes air.
Another question to so when running a FASs or AD why would they offer air Seperation if it all happens at the regulator?

Spindrift · Jan 30, 2012

I'd like to do a RR first and then see if my factory pump can keep up. Can anyone see a downside to this approach?

windrunner408 · Jan 30, 2012

A RR kit doesnt remove any air in the fuel. It only provides an alternate path for the majority of the air to go. With the stock setup, the fuel dead heads at the back of the motor and ALL of the air in the fuel (with out an AD or FASS unit) is forced through the injectors. However with a RR kit, you have a 3/8in line that the fuel passes through and backs up at the regulator until it reaches a certain pressure and the remainder continues on to the tank along with whatever air is in the fuel and only a portion of air (compared to when stock) going through the injectors. Its not a 100% air removal like the FASS or AD units.

05wh250 · Jan 30, 2012

do the a1000's need a pusher pump or is that just optional?

windrunner408 · Jan 30, 2012

It seems to be optional especially with the marine version A1000.

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Jan 31, 2012

windrunner408 said:
A RR kit doesnt remove any air in the fuel. It only provides an alternate path for the majority of the air to go. With the stock setup, the fuel dead heads at the back of the motor and ALL of the air in the fuel (with out an AD or FASS unit) is forced through the injectors. However with a RR kit, you have a 3/8in line that the fuel passes through and backs up at the regulator until it reaches a certain pressure and the remainder continues on to the tank along with whatever air is in the fuel and only a portion of air (compared to when stock) going through the injectors. Its not a 100% air removal like the FASS or AD units.

Ok....... With out a FASS or AD where does the air go? It's not being removed! All I'm trying to say is jakes system does not remove air! It your wanting to remove air it needs to be before it even makes it to the heads. Not at the return. I dont know about anyone else but air being removed at the regulator is halarious anyone thinks that. WHERE DOES IT GO? And if you have that much air in a system you have a problem. I'm a firm believe that removing air is not that big of a deal. If you have the AD or FASS, great use it. You don't have to have it.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Jan 31, 2012

97pwrstroke said:
Ok....... With out a FASS or AD where does the air go? It's not being removed! All I'm trying to say is jakes system does not remove air! It your wanting to remove air it needs to be before it even makes it to the heads. Not at the return. I dont know about anyone else but air being removed at the regulator is halarious anyone thinks that. WHERE DOES IT GO? And if you have that much air in a system you have a problem. I'm a firm believe that removing air is not that big of a deal. If you have the AD or FASS, great use it. You don't have to have it.

It goes right back to the tank... rather than being trapped in the heads. On a SD they dont have a return system stock, any fuel that makes it into the heads HAS to be used by the injectors... thats just how it is. Little different setup than your truck, you had a return sysem even stock.

But i agree with everything you said, it doesnt remove air. It redirects it

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Jan 31, 2012

Strokeorcroak said:
It goes right back to the tank... rather than being trapped in the heads. On a SD they dont have a return system stock, any fuel that makes it into the heads HAS to be used by the injectors... thats just how it is. Little different setup than your truck, you had a return sysem even stock.

But i agree with everything you said, it doesnt remove air. It redirects it

And I agree to. I know that with the SD that use the fuel supplied and not retuned like the obs. All I'm trying to say is if you have air it needs to be removed before even makin it to the heads. And air does not get removed at the return on any system! And jakes system does not remove air. Is jakes system bad because it doesn't remove air? Absolutely not! Jakes system is amazing but removing air is not an option with his system.

windrunner408 · Jan 31, 2012

97pwrstroke said:
Ok....... With out a FASS or AD where does the air go? It's not being removed! All I'm trying to say is jakes system does not remove air! It your wanting to remove air it needs to be before it even makes it to the heads. Not at the return. I dont know about anyone else but air being removed at the regulator is halarious anyone thinks that. WHERE DOES IT GO? And if you have that much air in a system you have a problem. I'm a firm believe that removing air is not that big of a deal. If you have the AD or FASS, great use it. You don't have to have it.

Strokeorcroak said:
It does not remove air. It redirects it

:whs: Yes to all of this. Finally someone making sense on here.

faster6.0 · Jan 31, 2012

That's why our RR kit maintains the factory fuel bowl as it still utilizes the air purge hole.

05wh250 · Feb 1, 2012

has anyone ran an a1000 with the stock regulator? i got dozers rr but the cabs coming off in a couple months, and heard its a pain to put in with the cab on.

MorganY · Feb 2, 2012

05wh250 said:
has anyone ran an a1000 with the stock regulator? i got dozers rr but the cabs coming off in a couple months, and heard its a pain to put in with the cab on.

its a pain, but is doable. it took me 6.5hrs with the banjos cab on, up pipes loose..if I could do it again I would use the 90 fittings