Seating injectors

CSIPSD

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Csipsd I hold you i pretty high regard on injectors and thanks. I do 16's in one smack by the way not two. And the stuck nozzle idea was because I think I could of had a piece of lint from cleaning out the locktite from the cup install. I checked the cups over the weekend and they are all the same height. Got My optilube today and my pcm tomorrow and injectors on wed. Will have it going soon I hope.



7.3's do not "stick" nozzles. Period, end of story.

When I say sink 16's in two what I mean is one to set, one to sink, unless you have really quick fingers, I've never been able to do it without one to set, one to sink.
 

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If you can't sink a 16 in one you are doing it wrong. Pull the trigger on the nail gun and bam, sunkLOL
 

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I think I said sticky nozzles.. meaning carbon or something else has gotten gumed up in the nozzle. they dribble fuel on the test stand from not seating. in the truck they can wash down cylinder
 

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7.3's do not "stick" nozzles. Period, end of story.

When I say sink 16's in two what I mean is one to set, one to sink, unless you have really quick fingers, I've never been able to do it without one to set, one to sink.

Got my injectors today and my pcm yesterday. I know what I will be doing tonight:joy:
 

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you guys are cracking me up. I do have a question or two if anybody is available. Installed my injectors and the second to last one installing has a paint mark on the top by the plastic plug in of the injector. Is that for the number 8 cylinder? My original were all the same so figured the same for these. And I used a rubber mallet hit them full swing (insert sarcasm) tap tap until the tone changed and tightened them down. One injector is just a smidge high. It was hard for me to fell it. Thats how little it is. Go with it?
 

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Dont worry about markings on them, the one for #8 will have a "LL" after the "AD" (or whatever code they are) and the solenoid may be a different color.

I bump them in with my fist to get them started, then tap to fully seat, torque, tap and torque again.

Every time I do this I find they require more torque after the second tap.

I dont use a strait edge anymore, seems as if not all solenoids are the same.
 

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Dont worry about markings on them, the one for #8 will have a "LL" after the "AD" and the solenoid may be a different color.

I bump them in with my fist to get them started, then tap to fully seat, torque, tap and torque again.

Every time I do this I find they require more torque after the second tap.

I dont use a strait edge anymore, seems as if not all solenoids are the same.

Thats what I was hoping to hear. It all seemed right as I was doing it. That solenoid is a darker color.
 

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CTC was right, the connector will be a blue or purpleish color.
 

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They are AB injectors and all the same. The other bank has one just a stinkin tad high also. I checked the cups before I put the injectors in and they are all down all the way. I could feel the copper orings compress when I was torquing the bolts, kind like a compression valve. So unless somebody convinces me that there's a problem I going to assume its the solenoids.
 

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So again in my efforts to try and see what in The **** the issue is... I failed again..

I installed one injector by hand til it plopped into bore. Hand tightened outboard bolt amd torque itnto 9 ft lbs. Which is spec for a 1999 for some reason. I watch the height the whole time and It maybe sank down a **** hair. I hit it three times with a rubber mallet and re torqued to 9 ft lbs. Bolt didnt move. I than went to the most common spec which is 120 inch lbs. Bolt did move than but of course im going up in torque....

Injectors seated perfectly.....
 

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^^ you really torque injectors down?

I'm sorry I don't. I'm not gonna lie. There is only a few things I torque

Head bolts
Main bolts
Fuel lines (6.4 & 6.7)
Flywheel bolts
Rod bolts

Am I a hack? LOL.


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yes your a hack. but it doesnt bother me, not like youll ever lay hands on any of my vehicles.
 

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Of course not. I'm lazy.

I honestly don't know a tech that torques thos bolts down. But then again we don't do high performance just dealer repairs.


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I install by tq to spec, a light rap with a soft face deadblow, then retorque. Lay the VCs over heat up and then check tq. I tq exactly to spec. IMO the number was given for a reason. What I have found though is that I have not had retq move anything very noticeable. The ones I tend to concern myself with are the ones I can not get my arm over top of. But if I get that tell tale thud by hand a rap of the deadblow does not seem to make much of a difference in tightness. But I still do it.


I have changed over the years and now I am quite particular about things like this. I use to tighten thing up to what I thought was tight which meant "overtight" Maybe its my time working and build firearms and dealing with psi, yield strengths, stretch, etc of fasteners. I torque everything to the factory spec and use the specific grade of bolt unless upgrading. I use some form of loctite or antiseize depending on application. I have found you end up with almost no issues such as: rounded head, twisted off bolts, crushed gaskets, warped parts, leaks etc.. I go to spec, break loose, torque again. Then do a couple heat cycles and recheck on any engine or suspension parts.
 

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